Why we MUST ditch our lazy attitude to finding work through agents and agencies

[MicrosoftBob]

If such a plan was put into place then presumably contractors would pay the same price in the subsidised staff canteen, for those working in London then a London weighting allowance would be granted and interest free loans for buying a season ticket? These are items that permies get and contractors don't....

Don't forget the latest thing unlimited parental leave

[Weltchy]

Hrm,

Sounds like it's time to setup as a 4+ man contractor consultancy and figure out how to pay ourselves a relative amount based on the billing rate.

[MrMarkyMark]

Hrm,

Sounds like it's time to setup as a 4+ man contractor consultancy and figure out how to pay ourselves a relative amount based on the billing rate.

Been thinking of exactly this and maybe a managed service type model .

[Weltchy]

Been thinking of exactly this and maybe a managed service type model .

I think it's possible, but would require a fair amount of forethought. You would have to take into consideration things like what happens when one of the contractors is out of contract and not billing. How do you apportion expenses, etc.

Still, I think if the T&S and IR35 changes come to pass, this will have to be investigated thoroughly. I wonder if someone like SJD, Nixon Williams or any specialist contractor accountancy could operate something like this on our behalf.

[DimPrawn]

I think it's possible, but would require a fair amount of forethought. You would have to take into consideration things like what happens when one of the contractors is out of contract and not billing. How do you apportion expenses, etc.

Still, I think if the T&S and IR35 changes come to pass, this will have to be investigated thoroughly. I wonder if someone like SJD, Nixon Williams or any specialist contractor accountancy could operate something like this on our behalf.

No doubt HMR&C would call it a "scam" and "deliberate tax avoidance" and take you all to court.

It almost like anything that isn't a big Tory donor consultancy must be crushed....

[PurpleGorilla]

Been thinking of exactly this and maybe a managed service type model .

Does anyone have a decent link for setting up a consultancy/associates business?

[d000hg]

So permies cost as much as a contractor, and have 1/2 the skills, work ethic and experience. Oh and they are off sick pretty much most of the year.

Maybe you shouldn't work in such dire companies, because that's certainly not my experience.

[TheLordDave]

Been thinking of exactly this and maybe a managed service type model .

I have also been thinking this. It would be a pain in the ass the manage though, unless an accountancy firm 'managed' it for you.

Other options?
Off shore company - is that possible?
Hire someone on minimum wage so your an employer?
Incorporate plan b into contractor company.

Would any of those make a difference and take you out of the Psc rules?

[PurpleGorilla]

I have to say, this extra tax and IR35 tulip is a complete wind up. Contracting for me offers the last available opportunity to secure a decent future for my family. But the Tories have pulled up the final ladder. No matter what you do there is no escape from debt slavery permieville servicing stupidly priced housing.

[Platypus]

Indeed, HMRC confirmed to us that if you’re a contractor who works through a recruitment agency

What exactly is a recruitment agency? Is this well enough defined?

Imagine that I have a direct contract with ClientCo but that they send me to their clients and charge me out at X per day, are they a recruitment agency? e.g. Accenture.

Furthermore, what if the "agency" or consultancy is offshore?