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    #11
    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    There's a saying from the Bible "the worker is worth their pay". But you could apply that either way when it comes to MPs
    Which bible says such a thing?

    one day at a time

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      #12
      Originally posted by oscarose View Post
      Which bible says such a thing?

      Does it matter?
      They are all bollocks.
      I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]

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        #13
        Originally posted by GlenW View Post
        Do you think that would improve the standard of government in this country?
        Yes. We might get people who want to do the job to help others.

        Maybe on each ballot paper the candidate should put how much salary they want to do the job?

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          #14
          Originally posted by GlenW View Post
          Does it matter?
          They are all bollocks.
          The talk less bollox than politicians. Or scientists. Or (gold plated)gang members.

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            #15
            Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
            Yes. We might get people who want to do the job to help others.
            They do. At least, that's why they get into politics. They probably don't make MP for 5-10 years after that.
            Originally posted by MaryPoppins
            I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
            Originally posted by vetran
            Urine is quite nourishing

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              #16
              Originally posted by oscarose View Post
              Which bible says such a thing?

              Bog standard King James. But it;s worth reading it in context...

              Luke 10:3 "Go; behold, I send you out as lambs in the midst of wolves.
              4 "Carry no money belt, no bag, no shoes; and greet no one on the way.
              5 "Whatever house you enter, first say, `Peace be to this house.
              6 "If a man of peace is there, your peace will rest on him; but if not, it will return to you.
              7 "Stay in that house, eating and drinking what they give you; for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not keep moving from house to house.
              8 "Whatever city you enter and they receive you, eat what is set before you;
              9 and heal those in it who are sick, and say to them, `The kingdom of God has come near to you."
              It's not a reference to wages in the sense that we use today, rather an instruction to those spreading the word to accept what is given to them by those they convert or who take them in. They should rely on the charity of others to sustain them on their journey.

              It's also worth remembering that anything like this has been translated through at least 3 languages before it ended up in anything approaching modern english and meaning of specific words has almost certainly been lost or misinterpreted along the way.
              Last edited by DaveB; 24 June 2015, 13:00.
              "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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                #17
                Luke 10:3 "Go; behold, I send you out as lambs in the midst of wolves.
                4 "Carry no money belt, no bag, no shoes; and greet no one on the way.
                5 "Whatever house you enter, first say, `Peace be to this house.
                6 "If a man of peace is there, your peace will rest on him; but if not, it will return to you.
                7 "Stay in that house, eating and drinking what they give you; for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not keep moving from house to house.
                8 "Whatever city you enter and they receive you, eat what is set before you;
                9 and heal those in it who are sick, and say to them, `The kingdom of God has come near to you."
                Seems to be saying: Blessed are the scroungers.
                Last edited by VectraMan; 24 June 2015, 13:12.
                Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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                  #18
                  stop providing religious studies on state universities
                  Start taxing churches
                  Pay lower salaries for teachers

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
                    It's also worth remembering that anything like this has been translated through at least 3 languages before it ended up in anything approaching modern english.
                    Wrong. Mainstream English translations of (Canonical) New Testament are based on Greek manuscripts exclusively (albeit the Gospels were from an oral tradition of probably Aramaic), the Canonical OT on Hebrew manuscripts, with reference to Septuagint. There are theories of other sources, but such theories should only be considered if you're wearing a tin-foil hat to keep out the martian radiation.

                    There are only a few words in the New Testament that do not exist in other non-scripture Greek texts. The OT ancient Hebrew has more uncertainity - for example, no-one really knows what "skin of their teeth" really meant - but the majority of the text is correct with a high degree of certainty - archaeological discoveries like the Dead Sea Scrolls have confirmed this.

                    Please note the above ignores tin-foil hat conspiracy theories.

                    Originally posted by GlenW View Post
                    Do you think that would improve the standard of government in this country?
                    It could hardly make it worse.

                    Any cuts should be made where they're going to make a substantial difference. That's why cutting MPs salaries' is rather pointless.
                    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                      #20
                      Well Gove is making friends in the legal profession. Maybe some of the cuts will come there.
                      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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