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Britain ahead of 17 other EU countries put together!

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    #21
    Don't worry, the Daily Fail is reporting that we are joining an EU force to bomb and invade Libya to stop the traffic coming over.

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      #22
      Theresa May: economic migrants fleeing across Mediterranean should be returned to Africa - Telegraph

      She has got a point!

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        #23
        Originally posted by SlipTheJab View Post
        Hopefully Cameron can sort this out now the Lib Dems have self destructed, takes the p!ss and as for the thousands sailing here from Libya, agree with May, drop them back off where they started from.
        You mean the man that promised to lower net migration to sub 100,000. I reckon the best way to do that is to make it even more tulip here so even more Brits will leave. The way it sounds right now, the govt. will soon start encouraging people to leave for ISIS.
        McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
        Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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          #24
          Originally posted by DaveB View Post
          Very few people are net contributors in terms of direct taxation payments. In fact you only actually become a net contributor once you hit the 40% tax bracket, and most people don't. Even then it's small numbers unless you are really earning big bucks. And at that point tax planning comes in as people try to minimise what they pay.

          Migrants still make up a relatively small proportion of the population, there are still far more net takers than net givers in the native population.

          Are you a contributor to, or a burden on, the nation's finances? - 'Squeezed middle' increasingly dependent on the state | This is Money
          How much we give the state in tax – and how much we get back - Telegraph
          So we're agreed then, that migrants will cost the overall economy (and therefore UK taxpayers) more in the long run.

          Saying "they cost, but not as much as a local" does not seem to me to be a great argument in favour of immigration, though.

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            #25
            Originally posted by meridian View Post
            So we're agreed then, that migrants will cost the overall economy (and therefore UK taxpayers) more in the long run.

            Saying "they cost, but not as much as a local" does not seem to me to be a great argument in favour of immigration, though.
            Immigrants tend to be younger, healthy, working age people. Maybe ultimately they cost the overall economy taking into account what DaveB said, but if they're costing the overall economy less than the average Brit, then at least we're getting a bit closer to making the books balance.
            Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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              #26
              Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View Post
              You mean the man that promised to lower net migration to sub 100,000. I reckon the best way to do that is to make it even more tulip here so even more Brits will leave. The way it sounds right now, the govt. will soon start encouraging people to leave for ISIS.
              Problem as we all know is that he has **** all control over EU migration, until he does its a waste of time trying.

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                #27
                Looks like the now 'unleased from LibDems' Tories are proposing to toughen things up..

                "migrants - no benefits for 4 years"
                "jobless migrants deported after six months without work"
                "stop child benefit being sent to children living abroad"
                "collision course with other European heads of state"

                12:25, Wed, May 13, 2015. Latest UK and World News, Sport and Comment | Daily Express (admittedly a veery right of center paper)

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                  #28
                  Well those were all things Cameron directly promised in TV debates.
                  Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                  I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                  Originally posted by vetran
                  Urine is quite nourishing

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by SunnyInHades View Post
                    Looks like the now 'unleased from LibDems' Tories are proposing to toughen things up..

                    "migrants - no benefits for 4 years"
                    "jobless migrants deported after six months without work"
                    "stop child benefit being sent to children living abroad"
                    "collision course with other European heads of state"

                    12:25, Wed, May 13, 2015. Latest UK and World News, Sport and Comment | Daily Express (admittedly a veery right of center paper)
                    a couple of these a somewhat vague really.

                    EU law is pretty strict on when you can deport someone so I presume he's talking about non-EU migrants?
                    I already thought that a EU migrant can't claim benefits - aside from JSA if they've been employed for a certain about of time - for 5 years anyway. So that could just be hot air.
                    Good luck on the other two.

                    Cameron will find it easier sailing in a coalition as his uber right-wing will be setting the agenda now.
                    McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
                    Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SunnyInHades View Post
                      "jobless migrants deported after six months without work"
                      Does that include anyone who comes here to retire? What about children or non-working wives?

                      The problem with all this is talking about migrants as all the same. EU migrants are the same as Scottish migrants and shouldn't be counted as part of the same figures or treated the same way.
                      Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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