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    #11
    Originally posted by woohoo View Post
    Plus you still have people who get all patriotic and think with their hearts and would be happy for us to lose money and lives over a small island.
    Isn't the UK mostly a small island ?

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      #12
      Originally posted by unixman View Post
      Isn't the UK mostly a small island ?
      It's quite a big one. Ranks 9th, IIRC.
      Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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        #13
        Originally posted by Batcher View Post

        Apart from that, The Falklands should be abandoned to Argentina despite clearly voting to stay with the UK.
        FTFY

        you people wanting to leave the UK misunderstand Democracy

        Falklands referendum: Voters choose to remain UK territory - BBC News

        I can understand your confusion almost 0.2% really wanted to leave the UK it was close! If only we hadn't deployed a great statesman and economist like Gordon B'ruin.
        Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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          #14
          Originally posted by vetran View Post
          FTFY

          you people wanting to leave the UK misunderstand Democracy

          Falklands referendum: Voters choose to remain UK territory - BBC News

          I can understand your confusion almost 0.2% really wanted to leave the UK it was close! If only we hadn't deployed a great statesman and economist like Gordon B'ruin.
          I know they voted to stay but we're talking of defending the islands when they are thousands of miles away. The people can still be British with the same rights but living in Argentina, much like expats all over the world.

          Broon Tabard is being wheeled out today again to try and save Labour but this time he's more likely to increase the SNP vote.

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            #15
            Originally posted by woohoo View Post
            I agree with you though I think the chance of giving up the Falklands is zero when there is a possibility of oil being found. Plus you still have people who get all patriotic and think with their hearts and would be happy for us to lose money and lives over a small island.
            Cost of the Malvinas war

            Lives


            Argentine 649
            UK servicemen 252
            Falkland Islanders (to friendly fire from the Navy) 3

            (not including post-war suicides, estimates range from 95 to 264 amongst UK veterans)

            Non-fatal casualties (both sides) 1,965

            Money

            Financial cost to the UK: 2.7 Billion, including 6 ships and 34 aircraft.

            Cost per Falkland Islander: £920,000 and 0.31 lives, or to put it another way one UK serviceman death for every 12 islanders.

            The cost of the Iron lady winning another term: beyond calculation.
            My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Batcher View Post
              I know they voted to stay but we're talking of defending the islands when they are thousands of miles away. The people can still be British with the same rights but living in Argentina, much like expats all over the world.

              Broon Tabard is being wheeled out today again to try and save Labour but this time he's more likely to increase the SNP vote.
              sod it I say we let the Norwegians have that miserable lot north of the wall. They can be bolshie expats.

              There is no saving Labour. Sturgeon will be in power for one term and everyone will realise she makes our Nige look sensible and balanced. SNP will wither and die when Westminster cut the extra cash off.
              Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                #17
                Originally posted by vetran View Post
                FTFY

                you people wanting to leave the UK misunderstand Democracy

                Falklands referendum: Voters choose to remain UK territory - BBC News

                I can understand your confusion almost 0.2% really wanted to leave the UK it was close! If only we hadn't deployed a great statesman and economist like Gordon B'ruin.
                Shortly before the conflict, a possible transfer and leaseback deal was being discussed at the UN. The collapse of those talks and Thatcher's withdrawal of HMS Endurance precipitated the war.
                My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by vetran View Post
                  sod it I say we let the Norwegians have that miserable lot north of the wall. They can be bolshie expats.

                  There is no saving Labour. Sturgeon will be in power for one term and everyone will realise she makes our Nige look sensible and balanced. SNP will wither and die when Westminster cut the extra cash off.
                  The difference is we have our own parliament. Maybe you should give independence to the Falklands then let them fight off the Argentinians on their own.

                  Nicola will be in charge for a lot longer than one term and we will have our independence.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by pjclarke View Post
                    Shortly before the conflict, a possible transfer and leaseback deal was being discussed at the UN. The collapse of those talks and Thatcher's withdrawal of HMS Endurance precipitated the war.
                    Falklands: “Britain puts forward four options on Falklands” (Nick Ridley visit & leaseback) | Margaret Thatcher Foundation

                    There is good sense in some of the options which Britain is putting forward on the Falkland Islands, particularly the lease-back formula. Under this plan, sovereignty over the islands would be ceded to Argentina but Britain would lease back the islands, either without a time limit or for say, 99 years.
                    It remains to be seen whether the islanders will agree with this or any of the other ideas which the British Government is canvassing after having taken soundings with the Argentines. The dispute over sovereignty has gone on for more than a hundred years.
                    Mr Nicholas Ridley, Minister of State at the Foreign Office, who is having talks with the islanders, apparently believes that a solution may be achieved by outright transfer of sovereignty, by transfer and lease back, by freezing the dispute for 25 years, or by taking what would be a drastic step and breaking off talks altogether.
                    An outright transfer would be politically unacceptable. The lease-back idea, on similar lines as for Hongkong, is the one Whitehall has been suggesting behind the scenes for some time. A freeze would merely defer the decision. A break-up of talks would probably lead to a confrontation.
                    it was an open sore well before Maggie was born
                    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by pjclarke View Post
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                      The cost benefit of the Iron lady winning another term: beyond calculation.
                      FTFY
                      Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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