Next Falklands war

[pjclarke]

As you have made a point of judging whether we fight for the freedom of fellow countryman according material cost then perhaps you might like to suggest an actual per capita amount.

In my tabulation above I listed lives lost before financial cost, how many soldiers and islander's lives would you be prepared to sacrifice so this tiny community can continue to inhabit this legacy of Empire. Is there an upper limit?

To answer your question, the defence budget is c 37bn the population is c 64m. you do the math, the defence budget for the Falklands works out at over £20,000 per British Islander. I agree with that raving leftie, Simon Jenkins

In other words, 2,500 colonists cannot enjoy an unqualified veto on British government policy. Thatcher thought it was in Britain's interest to negotiate with Argentina in 1982, even when it was a dictatorship. Now that Argentina is a democracy that interest can hardly have diminished. Subsequent British governments knew this, but were too gutless to act on it.

The Falklands can no longer remain as Britain's expensive nuisance | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | The Guardian

[EternalOptimist]

I am sure all the services and ex-services here are right behind you pj


because we sure as he!! wouldn't want to be in front of you

[pjclarke]

I am sure all the services and ex-services here are right behind you pj


because we sure as he!! wouldn't want to be in front of you

Ho ho. Read the Jenkins article, a negotiated alternative was underway and had it been successfully concluded 255 service households would not have received the dreaded knock on the door.

[EternalOptimist]

Ho ho. Read the Jenkins article, a negotiated alternative was underway and had it been successfully concluded 255 service households would not have received the dreaded knock on the door.

and ?
maybe in your cosseted and well-protected world that's a good reason for hoisting the white flag before someone says boo to you, on the precautionary principle I suppose.
Now trot off over there and be quiet.

[alluvial]

But DP,please stop pointing out pragmatic realities. This is all about standing up for a principle. The right of the islanders to self determination and defence of Tory values.

Indeed, these people are so amazingly British that they want to live 8,000 miles away from Britain. They so believe in the traditional Tory values of self-reliance and not depending on the State that they require 1 soldier for every two Islanders in perpetuity, and they are so bloody One Nation that they expect that each of the rest of us pay £1 annually each just for their privilege.

It all makes perfect sense.

So that's a Tory value is it? Is that why you support the mass clearance of the Falkland Islanders to make way for a weak claim from a foreign nation?

[pjclarke]

For those apparently averse to reading

Indeed at the very time of the Falklands war, Margaret Thatcher was transferring Hong Kong to China on similar grounds of expediency, and her favourite minister, Nicholas Ridley, was seeking a negotiated compromise on the Falklands with Argentina at the UN. This was for a transfer of sovereignty over the islands to Buenos Aires with entrenched leaseback to Britain to administer them on behalf of the 1,800 islanders, who would retain their right to remain British.

The irony is that the one thing that might have made leaseback acceptable to the islanders – a democratic Argentina – came about only through the one event that made such confidence-building impossible, the Falklands war. But that was the short-term. The short-term cannot be the end of the matter.

The Falklands can no longer remain as Britain's expensive nuisance | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | The Guardian

[MicrosoftBob]

So that's a Tory value is it? Is that why you support the mass clearance of the Falkland Islanders to make way for a weak claim from a foreign nation?

Lefties still praise Stalin even know we know about the genocide in the Ukraine, rhe invasion of Poland, Czechoslovakia etc and the killing more of his own population than died on both sides during the second world war, so the mass clearance of a small population must be water of a ducks back to them

[alluvial]

For those apparently averse to reading



The Falklands can no longer remain as Britain's expensive nuisance | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | The Guardian

I did read it and I now see where you've lifted most of your blathering from.

[EternalOptimist]

yes pj, there is many a slip twixt cup and lip and many great treaties that never get treated.
that's life. now give it a rest before trotting out some more of your guff.
and get the white flags in the wash

[EternalOptimist]

I did read it and I now see where you've lifted most of your blathering from.

he never had an original thought of his own. he just trots this stuff out from propaganda-central