11 dead in French shooting

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Correct and this is one of the problems with religion. The leaders of the religion translate the meanings of their holy book to what they want it to mean and the masses blindly follow that like lemmings.

That's where sincerity comes into it - Some religious leaders are not after gain and some are...... That's the problem with the people who follow the religion and not the religion itself. People kill each other for all sorts and not just religion.

[EternalOptimist]

You have to wonder about one thing, 'the pen is mightier than the sword'


it might be mightier than the 'S' word, but the guns won this time

[Paddy]

And what this video is supposed to prove?

9mm shot in the head at short distance is OK to disarm somebody with AK, you can always shoot more than once to be sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7aWMXuh0-w

[NickFitz]

It's being reported that one of the murdered policemen - possibly the one you may have seen video or stills of, being shot in the head as he lay wounded - was himself a Muslim, named Ahmed Merabet.

Something for those who seek to blame all followers of Islam for the actions of a few extremist criminals to ponder.

If they're capable of pondering, that is, which their unreasoning bigotry suggests is not the case.

[AtW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7aWMXuh0-w

We are not talking about shooting bricks, but human's head - if you thikn 9mm Glock bullet will harmlessly bounce off your head then by all means feel free to try it out.

[NotAllThere]

Because, even though the murderers are in the wrong, this wasn't an unforeseen consequence of what the magazine published. Fair enough, they decided it was worth it to sell a few magazinesbecause they felt it was in defence of free speech, that's their choice but 2 cops and 2 others are dead because of it.

Fixed that for you. The motive wasn't money.

Should the police have not provided protection? In a country that also sees to defend freedom of speech (or at least, be seen to do so!)

It's being reported that one of the murdered policemen - possibly the one you may have seen video or stills of, being shot in the head as he lay wounded - was himself a Muslim, named Ahmed Merabet.

Something for those who seek to blame all followers of Islam for the actions of a few extremist criminals to ponder.

If they're capable of pondering, that is, which their unreasoning bigotry suggests is not the case.

Anyone working for the infidels isn't a proper Muslim. Muslims who don't follow their ideology are not proper Muslims.

What's difficult to determine is how many Muslims support the killing of these journalists on the grounds of blasphemy. Are these people more representative of Muslims. I'd certainly like to think so, but how can we be sure? Though apparently most Muslim countries have condemned the attacks.

One twit tweeted that he'd only condemn the attacks if France condemned the murder of Muslims worldwide - apparently unaware that more Muslims are murdered by other Muslims than by non-Muslims.

[NickFitz]

Anyone working for the infidels isn't a proper Muslim. Muslims who don't follow their ideology are not proper Muslims.

I take it your expert knowledge of Islamic theology and intimate acquaintance with the mood and beliefs of the majority of Muslims (of all sects) are what allow you to make such a sweeping pronouncement with authority?

[mudskipper]

I take it your expert knowledge of Islamic theology and intimate acquaintance with the mood and beliefs of the majority of Muslims (of all sects) are what allow you to make such a sweeping pronouncement with authority?

I presume that NAT's sweeping pronouncement was invisibly prefixed with "The extremists justification is that..."

[Scruff]

We are not talking about shooting bricks, but human's head - if you thikn 9mm Glock bullet will harmlessly bounce off your head then by all means feel free to try it out.

[Pedant]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%C3%9719mm_Parabellum

There is no such thing as a 9mm Glock Bullet. The Glock can be chambered for the 9mm Parabellum / 9x19 cartridge.[/Pedant]

[mudskipper]

Reports of more shootings...

Can't find any online source - they said on the BBC news.

Ah,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-30722098

07:49
There has been shooting this morning south of Paris, with one police officer injured. Police say there is no link to the Charlie Hebdo attack.

08:03
An arrest has been made in the shooting which happened in south Paris this morning, AFP reports. There is no known link to the Charlie Hebdo attack.

Possibly unrelated...