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    #71
    If you're a burglar, and you think the homeowner is likely to have a loaded gun, you're going to take a gun. Most burglars in the UK don't come armed with guns and will run away if discovered.

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      #72
      Originally posted by zeitghost
      Now here's some people you really wouldn't want to burgle in a hurry:

      Charles Ommanney looks at the many faces of gun owners in the United States (Photos).

      You certainly don't want to mess with Millicent Hunter.
      Christ! I wouldn't fancy living next door to the Bakers! They don't look like they should be allowed to keep sharp cutlery never mind firearms!
      I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]

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        #73
        Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
        If you're a burglar, and you think the homeowner is likely to have a loaded gun, you're going to take a gun. Most burglars in the UK don't come armed with guns and will run away if discovered.
        Do you have any evidence to suggest that this is the case? The only stats I'm aware of (i.e the ones im aware of - not that there aren't any other ones) from the US where gun ownership is common (and in regions therein where common compared to where it is not), show that that not to be the case at all.

        I think the idea that a defended house results in an armed robber is ridiculous. It's like suggesting that a robber who knows that a house is occupied by a champion kickboxer will bring a champion thai boxer with him on his robbery, rather than just rob the neighbours instead. Except that bringing the thai-boxer is more credible as the potential loss is smaller for the same potential gain. An armed confrontation only increases the potential loss without increasing the potential gain.

        It's basic economics, and violence is very expensive.

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          #74
          The only good thing about this thread is that the stupid people in it are safely in the UK away from all the guns they seem to think are a good idea.
          Originally posted by MaryPoppins
          I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
          Originally posted by vetran
          Urine is quite nourishing

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            #75
            Originally posted by d000hg View Post
            The only good thing about this thread is that the stupid people in it are safely in the UK away from all the guns they seem to think are a good idea.
            Not all us stupid people are away from guns completely, mine are locked up in a cabinet at home.
            I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]

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              #76
              Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View Post
              I think the idea that a defended house results in an armed robber is ridiculous.

              Seriously?

              A criminal is going to rob your house or you regardless. If they think you are armed, then they are definitely going to armed.

              If they think you might shoot. They will shoot first.

              It's a simple cycle-of-violence.

              If having a heavily armed population resulted in a low crime rate then the USA would be much safer than it is.

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                #77
                Originally posted by zeitghost
                But, but, that's no good when "they" burst into the office with AKs & uzis.
                Wrong! That's perfect, I don't want a gun in my hand when I'm tulipting myself and may actually shoot someone, or worse the bad guys get their hands on my guns and shoot me and my family.
                I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
                  Seriously?

                  A criminal is going to rob your house or you regardless. If they think you are armed, then they are definitely going to armed.

                  If they think you might shoot. They will shoot first.

                  It's a simple cycle-of-violence.

                  If having a heavily armed population resulted in a low crime rate then the USA would be much safer than it is.
                  Well that logic seems very unintuitive to me, but as I say - there are stats which strongly suggest that you're mistaken.

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