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I am fairly sure I've read that in many cases, the abuse is believed to have been carried out and filmed for the purposes of distribution. I need to find the source of that to back up my claim, I know.Practically perfect in every way....there's a time and (more importantly) a place for malarkey.
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Presumably "enthusiasts" would abuse the child regardless, but perhaps some are effectively unscrupulous business men using it as an oppurtunity to make money without getting any kind of kick out of it themselves.Originally posted by d000hg View PostBut are people being harmed to create those images, or were they being harmed for the fun of it at the time and the pictures were a 'memento'? i.e. would those children have been harmed regardless? Is this an area people are making money from or is it all 'enthusiasts sharing photos'?
If you have a picture of a bank robbery, it doesn't make you a bank robber. But if you have a picture of a child being abused it makes you a child abuser. Which is odd in a way.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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In many cases being admitted to secret forums and suchlike where kiddy porn is distributed is conditional on providing fresh images.Originally posted by MaryPoppins View PostI am fairly sure I've read that in many cases, the abuse is believed to have been carried out and filmed for the purposes of distribution. I need to find the source of that to back up my claim, I know.
I suppose that is partly to increase the amount in circulation, for the benefit of the other members, but also as a kind of proof that the applicant is genuine and committed.Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ hereComment
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not really, one offence is the act of robbing the other its the act of owning.Originally posted by VectraMan View PostPresumably "enthusiasts" would abuse the child regardless, but perhaps some are effectively unscrupulous business men using it as an oppurtunity to make money without getting any kind of kick out of it themselves.
If you have a picture of a bank robbery, it doesn't make you a bank robber. But if you have a picture of a child being abused it makes you a child abuser. Which is odd in a way.Comment
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If I got off on bank robbery and it encouraged others to commit bank robberies to sell me pictures then it would become an offence.Originally posted by VectraMan View PostPresumably "enthusiasts" would abuse the child regardless, but perhaps some are effectively unscrupulous business men using it as an oppurtunity to make money without getting any kind of kick out of it themselves.
If you have a picture of a bank robbery, it doesn't make you a bank robber. But if you have a picture of a child being abused it makes you a child abuser. Which is odd in a way.
Which makes me wonder why there are so many nonces out there.Comment
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I don't think it's odd at allOriginally posted by VectraMan View PostIf you have a picture of a bank robbery, it doesn't make you a bank robber. But if you have a picture of a child being abused it makes you a child abuser. Which is odd in a way.
Firstly I doubt anyone would maturbate to the picture of a Bank Robbery.
Secondly the picture of the child has been produced as an integral part of the crime, these pictures have to be sort out/ shared amoung the groups of abusers. That's not the case with a photo of a Bank Robbery, in fact it could also help solve the crime.
Thirdly Try using that argument at the Police Station or in front of a jury.Last edited by ZARDOZ; 27 November 2014, 14:42.Comment
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