FLCs - LFIG Proposal

[tractor]

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I didn't expect him to come back for a debate anyway. He was obviously 'd in the first place.

[BolshieBastard]

Its a load of crap. Why should IT Contractors be coerced into working via a different framework to say a qualified (or even unqualified) electrician?

The battle shouldnt be about surrendering to some safe cosy position of appeasement. We should be drawing a line in the sand and say, here and no further.

[eek]

Its a load of crap. Why should IT Contractors be coerced into working via a different framework to say a qualified (or even unqualified) electrician?

The battle shouldnt be about surrendering to some safe cosy position of appeasement. We should be drawing a line in the sand and say, here and no further.

As the Scottish Referendum showed its hard to campaign for the status quo..

[Pondlife]

And the Chinese whispers continue.

IPSE calls on Osborne to abolish IR35 - Crunch

In order for the merger to be possible an expert should examine the current tax system and come up with a feasible solution, IPSE said. In the meantime a “freelancer limited company” structure would deliver “clarity of employment status” for independent professionals and would prevent self-employed workers from being hit by costly IR35 penalties*1.

Simon McVicker, IPSE’s Head of Policy and External Affairs said:
“Ahead of the General Election next May, the Autumn Statement presents the perfect opportunity for George Osborne to show how serious the Conservative Government is about supporting Britain’s 4.6 million self-employed people.
“The policy proposals we are recommending *2 will deliver a simpler tax system, a flexible pension scheme, a fairer approach to training and most importantly, a level playing field for independent professionals.”

*1 They aren't as far as I am aware
*2 What is being recommended?

[malvolio]

And the Chinese whispers continue.

IPSE calls on Osborne to abolish IR35 - Crunch



*1 They aren't as far as I am aware

Does that include everyone who uses an umbrella to avoid IR35? Or are you ,is-reading the definition of Self Employed in this context?

What is being recommended?

Lots.

[Pondlife]

Does that include everyone who uses an umbrella to avoid IR35? Or are you ,is-reading the definition of Self Employed in this context?

Lots.

What is this definition of Self Employed? And how is someone who classes themselves as caught by IR35 and therefore paying (near as dammit) full PAYE, avoiding IR35? That's not Self Employment.

[mudskipper]

What is this definition of Self Employed? And how is someone who classes themselves as caught by IR35 and therefore paying (near as dammit) full PAYE, avoiding IR35? That's not Self Employment.

It's defined in the manifesto

Who are the self-employed?
The self-employed are workers without an employee.

I queried this at the time - it seemed an odd definition.
I guess in the context of FLCs it makes more sense...

[eek]

It's defined in the manifesto



I queried this at the time - it seemed an odd definition.
I guess in the context of FLCs it makes more sense...

Well that rules me out (thank God). I continually offload work to others and will be bringing in employees at some point.,,,

[Pondlife]

It's defined in the manifesto



I queried this at the time - it seemed an odd definition.
I guess in the context of FLCs it makes more sense...

I'm not sure that creating our own definition of something already defined by HMRC is a good idea, especially by making it more generic. Even more so in the context of an 'optional' FLC.

It's basically a PSC.

[eek]

I'm not sure that creating our own definition of something already defined by HMRC is a good idea, especially by making it more generic. Even more so in the context of an 'optional' FLC.

It's basically a PSC.

What is the legal definition of a PSC?