If you're under 30, bad luck. You're screwed

[d000hg]

I have already proved my point, you just don't seem to be paying attention.

You've proved your point that it's not necessary to provide data? That's unprovable, and that's what we're discussing.

[OwlHoot]

Nope sorry - I am not wrong. Uk wages are good. Any higher and we are non competitive. Fact.

Energy costs are high and this is a big outlay both for business and for employees. Then there is high rent and a monopoly property market.

Low energy costs, and housing costs and everyone would be richer (apart from the banks and multinational corps).

Spot on about the energy costs especially!

Nuclear is the only answer.

Shame the last Labour government put the UK back 10 years by disdaining nuclear power

[ELBBUBKUNPS]

I feel lucky, if I was 18-19 now I would have never made the same decisions I did when I was actually 18, for example I would never have gone to university the debt would of put me off, I didn't have to pay fees etc and still got a grant. London houses prices are also totally screwed up, the first place I bought / sold is now back on the market, back in the day as a permy I could pay the mortgage no probs when I was 23 30k salary, now you would need a 90k salary to cover the mortgage to get the place.

[DodgyAgent]

There needs to be a major housebuilding program a shake up of public sector services and investment in energy. What people then earn does not really matter. People are under pressure to earn enough to stave off reliance on any public sector service. If these services worked for the consumer instead of the supplier then everything would be fine.

[vetran]

There needs to be a major housebuilding program a shake up of public sector services and investment in energy. What people then earn does not really matter. People are under pressure to earn enough to stave off reliance on any public sector service. If these services worked for the consumer instead of the supplier then everything would be fine.

wages will not rise until there are a shortage of workers and we remove Government subsidies.
House prices will not fall unless there is a surplus.
Taxes will not fall until we reduce waste.

[SueEllen]

wages will not rise until there are a shortage of workers and we remove Government subsidies.
House prices will not fall unless there is a surplus.
Taxes will not fall until we reduce waste.

Taxes can't go down until wages go up and the government stops subsidising workers.

[original PM]

But I have worked hard all my life, got qualified etc as did the wife and we are quite well off.

it would not have been the same had we do nowt and school and been lazy toerags moving from min wage job to min wage job

I do not think you are screwed if you are under 30 I think you just have to understand hard work is not bleeting on bleeter or posting on lifeinvader.

[SueEllen]

But I have worked hard all my life, got qualified etc as did the wife and we are quite well off.

it would not have been the same had we do nowt and school and been lazy toerags moving from min wage job to min wage job

I do not think you are screwed if you are under 30 I think you just have to understand hard work is not bleeting on bleeter or posting on lifeinvader.

You are screwed.

You cannot buy a property in London or in lots of the South East however hard you work unless you have relatives giving you money for a deposit. I know teachers and other lower paid people doing worthwhile occupations who if they were born 5 years let alone 10 years later would not have been able to buy property.

[NotAllThere]

If you're under 30, bad luck. You're screwed

It's good that he points out that NI isn't a pension fund or insurance scheme, but with "Your NI contributions pay directly for the pensions of today’s retirees." he's perpetuating the myth that NI is somehow ring fenced, rather than just be a component of income tax and a tax on employment.

[PurpleGorilla]

If you're under 30, bad luck. You're screwed

The one thing that under 30s have.

Which money cannot buy.

Which is worth more than anything else.

That silver surfers would trade it all for.

Is their youth.

One life - live it.