Was the Scotland vote rigged?

[Unix]

What is SNP going to do if the promises aren't kept - which they will claim they weren't regardless? Maybe they'll do a Unix and thcream and thcream 'til they're thick?

This will likely trigger another referendum. So we get to have another MASSIVE thread on it here!

[NickyBoy]

This will likely trigger another referendum. So we get to have another MASSIVE thread on it here!

FYI this referendum was only legal because of the Edinburgh Agreement, wherein the UK government gave the Scottish parliament legal approval for a 1-off referendum before the end of 2014.

For a future referendum to have any actual legal weight, the power to hold that referendum would once again have to be granted by the UK government. As the last referendum result was a solid 'no' and as long as the UK government can publicly maintain that it kept to its vow about devolution, there would be zero pressure on it to give that power to the Scottish parliament.

Any attempt to 'take' that right and unilaterally declare independence would result in a rather one-sided curb-stomp of an illegal Scottish separatist government, without even a peep out of the rest of the world. That's not a path any sane UK citizen would want to go down.

[Dactylion]

....That's not a path any sane UK citizen would want to go down.

What about the sweaties?

[Unix]

FYI this referendum was only legal because of the Edinburgh Agreement, wherein the UK government gave the Scottish parliament legal approval for a 1-off referendum before the end of 2014.

For a future referendum to have any actual legal weight, the power to hold that referendum would once again have to be granted by the UK government. As the last referendum result was a solid 'no' and as long as the UK government can publicly maintain that it kept to its vow about devolution, there would be zero pressure on it to give that power to the Scottish parliament.

Any attempt to 'take' that right and unilaterally declare independence would result in a rather one-sided curb-stomp of an illegal Scottish separatist government, without even a peep out of the rest of the world. That's not a path any sane UK citizen would want to go down.

That's the point, they wouldn't, the vow is very clear.

[d000hg]

This will likely trigger another referendum. So we get to have another MASSIVE thread on it here!

No it won't. You can't have a referendum because some vague promises don't appear to have been kept.

Anyway, shouldn't SNP have disbanded regardless of the result? Since the people of Scotland said they didn't want to be independent, that rather makes the SNP's whole existence a bit pointless.

[Old Greg]

This will likely trigger another referendum. So we get to have another MASSIVE thread on it here!

It would be worth it just to see your disappointment again.

[Unix]

No it won't. You can't have a referendum because some vague promises don't appear to have been kept.

Anyway, shouldn't SNP have disbanded regardless of the result? Since the people of Scotland said they didn't want to be independent, that rather makes the SNP's whole existence a bit pointless.

The vow was very clear and is being tracked very closely as it was the reason the No won by their slim 5 point margin. Even a sniff of breaking it will result in terrible pain for the UK. The SNP will disband when their raison d'etre has been fulfilled, which might be soon based on the early signs of the vow.

[Old Greg]

The vow was very clear and is being tracked very closely as it was the reason the No won by their slim 5 point margin. Even a sniff of breaking it will result in terrible pain for the UK. The SNP will disband when their raison d'etre has been fulfilled, which might be soon based on the early signs of the vow.

Didn't you say that nobody believed the Vow, that it was a desperate bid, and it would just make more people vote Yes?

[minestrone]

They are having multiple 'rally for a revote' this weekend.

Zoomers.

[d000hg]

The vow was very clear and is being tracked very closely as it was the reason the No won by their slim 5 point margin. Even a sniff of breaking it will result in terrible pain for the UK. The SNP will disband when their raison d'etre has been fulfilled, which might be soon based on the early signs of the vow.

It wasn't explicitly defined what they were promising. So whatever they do the SNP will claim it's broken.

And no, that wasn't why NO won. The results were in line with every poll taken except for one outlier. NO won because in 2 years, Salmond hadn't bothered to think about how things would work, and was left fumbling for answers with 2 weeks to go. If things like currency - probably only currency TBH - had been seen as solved well in advance, I think it would have gone YES.