Hillsborough

[MaryPoppins]

You obviously have never been in a crowded situation.

WSS. Is it truly people actively shoving, or just the nature of a very large group of people compacted into a small area?

[quackhandle]

WSS. Is it truly people actively shoving, or just the nature of a very large group of people compacted into a small area?

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."

K, MIB

qh

[MaryPoppins]

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."

K, MIB

qh

Yeah, that's the sort of thing. I was very nearly pushed onto the tracks on a platform at Baker Street [a man grabbed me thankfully]; not through conscious pushing by anyone, but by the awful crowd mentality. It's therefore difficult to see how blame can be apportioned to the fans.

[MyUserName]

I remember a very crowded night in AndyW's mum.

FTFY

[ZARDOZ]

Yeah, that's the sort of thing. I was very nearly pushed onto the tracks on a platform at Baker Street [a man grabbed me thankfully]; not through conscious pushing by anyone, but by the awful crowd mentality. It's therefore difficult to see how blame can be apportioned to the fans.

They had a history of acting like yobbos, see Heysel disaster only a couple of years earlier. So it's difficult to see how blame cannot be apportioned to the fans

[stek]

They had a history of acting like yobbos, see Heysel disaster only a couple of years earlier. So it's difficult to see how blame cannot be apportioned to the fans

Friend of mine (Liverpool Fan) was at the European Cup final in Athens when they won it, there was congestion at the turnstiles there due to dodgy ticketing there.

He told me that the Greek officials where asking genuine tickets holders at the Liverpool end to hold their tickets up in the air for inspection and when they did other Scousers were nicking them from their hands...

Scallies!

[DiscoStu]

Did a load of them steam in without tickets?

We didn't need tickets, we were all welcomed with open arms legs.

[woohoo]

They had a history of acting like yobbos, see Heysel disaster only a couple of years earlier. So it's difficult to see how blame cannot be apportioned to the fans

Not the brightest candle are you.

Your suggesting that the same people where involved with both tragedies? Think about what your saying.

[woohoo]

Friend of mine (Liverpool Fan) was at the European Cup final in Athens when they won it, there was congestion at the turnstiles there due to dodgy ticketing there.

He told me that the Greek officials where asking genuine tickets holders at the Liverpool end to hold their tickets up in the air for inspection and when they did other Scousers were nicking them from their hands...

Scallies!

That's some made up stuff.

So your saying a person holds up a ticket and it's pinched by the person next to him or close proximity. So you think that person who just had his ticket pinched isn't going to do something about it.

Do you think the police watching fans hold up their tickets for inspection wont notice this.

Your mate is a dick and so are you for believing him or making this story up.

[stek]

That's some made up stuff.

So your saying a person holds up a ticket and it's pinched by the person next to him or close proximity. So you think that person who just had his ticket pinched isn't going to do something about it.

Do you think the police watching fans hold up their tickets for inspection wont notice this.

Your mate is a dick and so are you for believing him or making this story up.

So tell us what you saw when as you were there too.