Salmond "We can take Scotland in two weeks"

[JustinTime]

As well as knoweing it all, you have the ability to re-write history.

If there's a yes vote, please don't move to England. We'll need people like you !

Sorry, I thought that this was a discussion on scottish independence... The rewriting of history is a mandatory requirement... Might even be scottish government policy.

No; you'll need my tax revenue.
HTH.

[Old Greg]

Yes, sorry. My point was that the SNP brought Thatcher into power, and that they are now feeding off the scottish (sic) antipathy toward the Tories (and/or Thatcher) in order to support their own agenda.

Shameful.

Tartan Tories.

[TestMangler]

No I don't. I am referring to your possible position when your piss-ant country gets what it deserves.

Has history taught you nothing?

Yes. English ex squaddies are generally cunts.

[Old Greg]

No I don't. I am referring to your possible position when your piss-ant country gets what it deserves.

Has history taught you nothing?

Are you actually angry that the people of Scotland are considering independence?

[scooterscot]

No I don't. I am referring to your possible position when your piss-ant country gets what it deserves.

Has history taught you nothing?

History is for crossword enthusiasts... like 15 across 'The British prime minister that presided over the break up of the UK in 2014'

Are you ready for a currency union? It's coming.

[jemb]

So there is a risk of that just as there is a risk that they could be forced to join Schengen.

But unless Spain really drags its heels - and the EU can lean on them because of their poor financial position - I think both of these are unlikely, simply because there is already a model for countries to join the CTA or not to join the Euro. Nobody considered how a new country seceding from a member country would be treated, so I am sure pragmatism would win the day.

When it comes to stability, I think it is a different matter. Sterlingisation = no central bank, and I don;t think that would be compatible with membership. The same for reneging on national debt. And worryingly for the people of Scotland, these appear to be the Scottish government's position in the event on there being no CU.

The Scottish government's position does not stack up and shows that they are not to be trusted by the Scottish people, whatever the overall merits of independence.

Well said. Nationalism is driving this whole debate, the 'Yes' campaign are putting that first and ignoring everything else.

In the event of a Yes - We have been told by the Spanish/Italians/Belgians that it ill be an article 49 Entry. The Germans have said renaging on the debt and the lack of a Central bank would be incompatible with entry into the EU.
The main parties in the UK have stated that there will be NO CU.

...and the Yes camp still go with the 'it'll-all-be-ok' once we have a Yes vote. It will not. There will be no CU.

Why the f*** the Yes campaign just can't acknowledge the risks is gobsmacking. Unix, Batcher et al. have already said they would vote 'Yes' even if they knew there would be no CU - so honesty wouldn't scare everyone away.

[Churchill]

History is for crossword enthusiasts... like 15 across 'The British prime minister that presided over the break up of the UK in 2014'

Are you ready for a currency union? It's coming.

So, the Bank of England, which is propped up by the UK tax payer is going to be lender of last resort to an independent Scotland?

You're deluded.

So much so that you actually think the "Yes" vote is going to win.

[Old Greg]

Well said. Nationalism is driving this whole debate, the 'Yes' campaign are putting that first and ignoring everything else.

In the event of a Yes - We have been told by the Spanish/Italians/Belgians that it ill be an article 49 Entry. The Germans have said renaging on the debt and the lack of a Central bank would be incompatible with entry into the EU.
The main parties in the UK have stated that there will be NO CU.

...and the Yes camp still go with the 'it'll-all-be-ok' once we have a Yes vote. It will not. There will be no CU.

Why the f*** the Yes campaign just can't acknowledge the risks is gobsmacking. Unix, Batcher et al. have already said they would vote 'Yes' even if they knew there would be no CU - so honesty wouldn't scare everyone away.

But funnily enough I think it will be OK, but just not in a way that will get the wavering voter through the Yes door.

It would be nice to hear one of the pro-independence posters engage in this particular discussion about the Scottish government's stance.

[eek]

Well said. Nationalism is driving this whole debate, the 'Yes' campaign are putting that first and ignoring everything else.

In the event of a Yes - We have been told by the Spanish/Italians/Belgians that it ill be an article 49 Entry. The Germans have said renaging on the debt and the lack of a Central bank would be incompatible with entry into the EU.
The main parties in the UK have stated that there will be NO CU.

...and the Yes camp still go with the 'it'll-all-be-ok' once we have a Yes vote. It will not. There will be no CU.

Why the f*** the Yes campaign just can't acknowledge the risks is gobsmacking. Unix, Batcher et al. have already said they would vote 'Yes' even if they knew there would be no CU - so honesty wouldn't scare everyone away.

but it may scare 1 person and that may be the person to tip it over 50% so they can't risk tell people what could happen.

Mind you having read that vow this morning I'm voting for whoever stands up and disagrees with it. The Barnett Formula was out of date in 1980 and is now utterly unfit for purpose..

[Unix]

Well said. Nationalism is driving this whole debate, the 'Yes' campaign are putting that first and ignoring everything else.

In the event of a Yes - We have been told by the Spanish/Italians/Belgians that it ill be an article 49 Entry. The Germans have said renaging on the debt and the lack of a Central bank would be incompatible with entry into the EU.
The main parties in the UK have stated that there will be NO CU.

...and the Yes camp still go with the 'it'll-all-be-ok' once we have a Yes vote. It will not. There will be no CU.

Why the f*** the Yes campaign just can't acknowledge the risks is gobsmacking. Unix, Batcher et al. have already said they would vote 'Yes' even if they knew there would be no CU - so honesty wouldn't scare everyone away.

There are risks, but the problem is the doomsday tactics of the no campaign make it difficult to have a reasoned discussion on the risks. As soon as you admit it the No campaign and MSM would have it all over their front pages as end of the world.