Salmond "We can take Scotland in two weeks"

[SueEllen]

The point being the flight of Irish graduates toward economies that will give them a better life. Ireland tanked during the recession, and it's still struggling. Scotland is likely to be in the same position: a net outflow of talent, and economic resources. All this nonsense about new scotland (sic) being the land of opportunity is laughable. Yes, there is opportunity to be had, but that small opportunity will be siphoned off to feed the gaping maw of the entitled classes.

There are plenty of Scots in the rUK anyway.

We are even bloody ruled by them and their descendants.

[Unix]

The point being the flight of Irish graduates toward economies that will give them a better life. Ireland tanked during the recession, and it's still struggling. Scotland is likely to be in the same position: a net outflow of talent, and economic resources. All this nonsense about new scotland (sic) being the land of opportunity is laughable. Yes, there is opportunity to be had, but that small opportunity will be siphoned off to feed the gaping maw of the entitled classes.

Why will Scotland be like Ireland? You offer no evidence for that conclusion so I can only assume you are a moron who read it somewhere and parroted it.

[Batcher]

So am I, but I'm also British. I see independence as divisive, but, like you, I don't get a vote.

Although I think it's been pretty divisive regardless of the outcome.

We're all British and we will remain British after the referendum no matter the result. This is due to geographical reasons as we are part of the British Isles.

[Old Greg]

The point being the flight of Irish graduates toward economies that will give them a better life. Ireland tanked during the recession, and it's still struggling. Scotland is likely to be in the same position: a net outflow of talent, and economic resources. All this nonsense about new scotland (sic) being the land of opportunity is laughable. Yes, there is opportunity to be had, but that small opportunity will be siphoned off to feed the gaping maw of the entitled classes.

I disagree. Ireland had a peculiar set of circumstances which will not be the case in Scotland (or there is no reason to think so):

1 Massive house building boom
2 Simultaneous massive house price increase
3 Semi-corrupt tax breaks / zoning underpinning 1 and 2
4 Euro membership meaning that low interest rates set in Frankfurt could not be raised to deal with 1 and 2
5 Dreadful and semi-corrupt bank regulation leading to massive exposure to the housing market
6 A semi-treacherous political class that caved into EU pressure by bailing out the bond holders when the bank went under, rather than handing ownership of banks to those bond holders

[DodgyAgent]

That is with the current Union and decades of focus on the South East by Westminster. With independence you will see 90 year old Glaswegians jogging around in a few years.

The only way that is going to happen is if people are motivated to work. I cannot see that happening under the socialists that are lining up to run the country.
There are a lot of things that are magically going to happen when Scotland is "freed" from Westminster though no one seems able to explain exactly how.

[Old Greg]

We're all British and we will remain British after the referendum no matter the result. This is due to geographical reasons as we are part of the British Isles.

No, it is for the geographical reason that we are all in Great Britain (or the small surrounding islands - but exlcluding Ireland).

[DodgyAgent]

Why will Scotland be like Ireland? You offer no evidence for that conclusion so I can only assume you are a moron who read it somewhere and parroted it.

The morons are the ones that don't consider history in trying to determine human behaviour.

[SueEllen]

I disagree. Ireland had a peculiar set of circumstances which will not be the case in Scotland (or there is no reason to think so):

1 Massive house building boom
2 Simultaneous massive house price increase
3 Semi-corrupt tax breaks / zoning underpinning 1 and 2
4 Euro membership meaning that low interest rates set in Frankfurt could not be raised to deal with 1 and 2
5 Dreadful and semi-corrupt bank regulation leading to massive exposure to the housing market
6 A semi-treacherous political class that caved into EU pressure by bailing out the bond holders when the bank went under, rather than handing ownership of banks to those bond holders

But if Scotland doesn't have it's own Central Bank with it's own currency than the above can happen. Though 5 is unlikely to happen again for the next 80 years.

[Unix]

The only way that is going to happen is if people are motivated to work. I cannot see that happening under the socialists that are lining up to run the country.
There are a lot of things that are magically going to happen when Scotland is "freed" from Westminster though no one seems able to explain exactly how.

The socialist angle from he SNP is just to get enough Yes votes from the working class. We will be the epitome of a successful capitalist state. Trainee recruitment agents will own 3 Porches.

[JustinTime]

Why will Scotland be like Ireland? You offer no evidence for that conclusion so I can only assume you are a moron who read it somewhere and parroted it.

Are we not a Celtic Lion?

Grrrrr.