America reaps what it sows, says preacher as British jihadists gloat

[alluvial]

Yes, I was talking about negotiating the safe passage of the islanders off the island. The alternative is to swap say 250 men's lives for 2k people to stay on the island.

So would the same apply if, for the sake of argument, the French decided to land an invasion force on the Isle of Wight?

[tractor]

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God, I really don't know what to say to that.

The obtuse point I was making was that Galtieri made the first underhand moves to take South Georgia and then moved onto Stanley.

Had he not 'sent his fleet' none of it would have happened.

Yes, we could have dumped all 2500 islanders to his mercy. We didn't. I am saddened by the losses but not sad that we stood up for the Islanders.

What makes me even more sad is that we are still providing arms and ammunition and support to other countries that would use it.

How many of you are in or have made money out of defence contracts btw? I'm not.

[tractor]

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So would the same apply if, for the sake of argument, the French decided to land an invasion force on the Isle of Wight?

No, because for some, proximity is more important. I disagree. See my other post about the Chagos and Diego Garcia. We are entirely in the wrong over those.

[NotAllThere]

...Free speech means every opinion should be heard, even the vile and extremists ones. ...

That is what Free Speech means, but in the West we don't have absolute free speech. There are curtailments on it. That's what the Hate laws are about.

If you publicly deny the holocaust in many European countries you will be prosecuted. I'm not going to defend David Icke has having a right to his free speech on the subject - no matter how correct he is about lizards.

[DiscoStu]

The obtuse point I was making was that Galtieri made the first underhand moves to take South Georgia and then moved onto Stanley.

Had he not 'sent his fleet' none of it would have happened.

Yes, we could have dumped all 2500 islanders to his mercy. We didn't. I am saddened by the losses but not sad that we stood up for the Islanders.

What makes me even more sad is that we are still providing arms and ammunition and support to other countries that would use it.

How many of you are in or have made money out of defence contracts btw? I'm not.

I did one, then one of my friends asked how I felt about killing people by proxy. Made me think a bit.

[EternalOptimist]

For me it's about almost 1000 men dying. It's not unfortunate when that many people die, it wasn't an accident, it's perverse. Politics and political gain and control, that's what it's always about.

those blokes died in a pointless war so that you could have the right to point out that they died in a pointless war. thats the point

[smalldog]

Wow, this thread has seriously lost the america jihad opener......just to bring it back a tad.

Jihadists and the likes of ISIS are no different to the crusades, just a bit behind the times "so last year". We did it too, about a millennia ago. Same principle, "dont believe in our god?, ok we'll cut your head off". Since then we've learnt its not ok to cut someones head off just because they disagree with your religious views, some havent.

All radicalised religions do the same, they dont have a life apart from their religion, so protect it in the extreme above all else as thats all they have, in their brain washed world.

Tolerance is a big deal in the UK, that is because were a civilised nation. Jihadists are not, they are racist and intolerant and have no place in the 21st century or our country. Any condoning of hateful actions should be against the law IMHO.

No religion believes its acceptable to kill in their gods name, its purely used as an excuse to be barbaric.

[Mich the Tester]

I understand what you are saying. I don't believe that she runs the country anyway, she is a puppet.

You may be right; I read something recently by an ex Argentine politician who said that Nestor Kirchner told his civil servants to never tell his wife any bad news otherwise she'd flip and lose it. It´s all a bit of a shame; Argentina´s actually a wonderful place with very enjoyable people, and it was recovering very nicely from the big financial meltdown of 2002 until this stupid cow got started. The woman is a train crash. Happily these days they have the means to get rid of her.

[woohoo]

those blokes died in a pointless war so that you could have the right to point out that they died in a pointless war. thats the point

1000 people died in Falklands war so I could point it out as pointless. Your a dick. Really are stupid.

[EternalOptimist]

1000 people died in Falklands war so I could point it out as pointless. Your a dick. Really are stupid.

speak away.

i grant you free speech.


if anyone objects, give us a shout.. ill marmelise them for you