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How to Approach 'Paternity' Time Off With Potential Clients?
				
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 If they just didn't employ people that are at child bearing age or will be having kids in the near future we wouldn't have all this problem would we.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!! 
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 Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostIf your employer does not provide it's employees with a legal right, then that's up to them. My employer provided me with two weeks full pay for paternity leave when my child was born, though. I could have declined that, but it was my right to take it, so I did. its
							
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						The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.
 
 George Frederic Watts
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_ParkComment
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 Originally posted by northernladuk View PostNice but no where has he mentioned his employer. We are talking about the client here... nowhere
							
						The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are. nowhere
							
						The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.
 
 George Frederic Watts
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_ParkComment
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 Surely you saw the implied humor in what was being said? Clearly a contractor cant have 'holiday pay' or 'paternity leave', but for the purposes of the joke being made did you see what he was driving at? Or did you not see that at all, did you fell he was talking about actual paternity leave and being 100% serious rather than making a light hearted throw away comment?Originally posted by northernladuk View PostOk I will play.. How's this..
 
 Maternity leave. A legal right that an employee has and the employer must comply. Can be up to a year so needs planning and managing
 
 Paternity leave for a contractor - Contractors do not get paternity leave. It's a bit of time the contractor is unavailable for work. The reason is irrelevant and really shouldn't be a factor although it can sway peoples personal opinion. A client might be more sympathetic with 3 weeks off for a new born than three weeks on the piss in Vegas. It's not going to be long so it's just an extended holiday that doesn't need planning or management.
 
 Those differences clearly show the two are completely unrelated except for the fact kids are involved. No irony there.Comment
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 Originally posted by northernladuk View PostIf they just didn't employ people that are at child bearing age or will be having kids in the near future we wouldn't have all this problem would we. childbearing childbearing
 :grammar variousThe material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.
 
 George Frederic Watts
 
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 No paternity or maternity leave for contractors. Correct.Originally posted by northernladuk View PostOk I will play.. How's this..
 
 Maternity leave. A legal right that an employee has and the employer must comply. Can be up to a year so needs planning and managing
 
 Paternity leave for a contractor - Contractors do not get paternity leave. It's a bit of time the contractor is unavailable for work. The reason is irrelevant and really shouldn't be a factor although it can sway peoples personal opinion. A client might be more sympathetic with 3 weeks off for a new born than three weeks on the piss in Vegas. It's not going to be long so it's just an extended holiday that doesn't need planning or management.
 
 Those differences clearly show the two are completely unrelated except for the fact kids are involved. No irony there.
 
 "It's not going to be long so it's just an extended holiday that doesn't need planning or management."
 
 It does on my project which has 6 weeks to run before completion....... I cannot afford to lose 50% of the scheduled project time.
 
 You know the irony was for illustration and 'fun' but the issue is serious and I know you agree northernladuk because (although I cannot remember you using the word) you are one of cuk's foremost guardians of professionalism and promoter of correct (sustainable) business values. The OP needs to give careful thought to his approach on this.Comment
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 I did but it's Taita. Look at some of his/her posts you just don't know.Originally posted by reformation View PostSurely you saw the implied humor in what was being said? Clearly a contractor cant have 'holiday pay' or 'paternity leave', but for the purposes of the joke being made did you see what he was driving at? Or did you not see that at all, did you fell he was talking about actual paternity leave and being 100% serious rather than making a light hearted throw away comment?'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!! Comment
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 More bollocksOriginally posted by Taita View PostYou know the irony was for illustration and 'fun' but the issue is serious and I know you agree northernladuk because (although I cannot remember you using the word) you are one of cuk's foremost guardians of professionalism and promoter of correct (sustainable) business values. The OP needs to give careful thought to his approach on this.   'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!! 'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!! Comment
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 Irony (n): The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
 
 No irony here; merely unfortunate coincidences.Comment
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 That is ironic.Originally posted by dty View PostIrony (n): The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
 
 No irony here; merely unfortunate coincidences.
 
 However, do you not think life can sometimes be ironic?The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.
 
 George Frederic Watts
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_ParkComment
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