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How to Approach 'Paternity' Time Off With Potential Clients?

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    #31
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    How does that relate to the contractors situation?
    It doesn't. But if you were brought in to cover for someone's maternity leave, then there is a certain irony in then needing to take time off because of a birth.

    It would only be more ironic if a female contractor were brought in for maternity cover, and then fell pregnant and had to take maternity leave during the maternity cover.
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      #32
      Originally posted by reformation View Post
      He was implying the irony of taking time off as a contractor for your wifes birth, when you're there in the first place to cover a woman having a baby and being on maternity leave.
      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
      Am well aware of that and it's not irony at all. What I am pointing out that the two couldn't be more unrelated.
      What about if the employee had taken time off to enter a Buddhist monastery for contemplation, and the contractor was demanding to work seven days per week for free to win a bet with a Dutch leper? Wouldn't that be more unrelated?
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        #33
        Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
        It doesn't. But if you were brought in to cover for someone's maternity leave, then there is a certain irony in then needing to take time off because of a birth.

        It would only be more ironic if a female contractor were brought in for maternity cover, and then fell pregnant and had to take maternity leave during the maternity cover.
        In the HR department of a maternity hospital, when no member of staff or contractor had ever taken maternity leave.
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          #34
          Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
          It doesn't. But if you were brought in to cover for someone's maternity leave, then there is a certain irony in then needing to take time off because of a birth.

          It would only be more ironic if a female contractor were brought in for maternity cover, and then fell pregnant and had to take maternity leave during the maternity cover.
          Project Manager's nightmare!

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            #35
            Originally posted by Taita View Post
            Project Manager's nightmare!
            She's on mat leave.
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              #36
              Originally posted by speling bee View Post
              She's on mat leave.
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                #37
                Originally posted by Taita View Post
                A loss of words is so unusual for you. I hope you feel better soon.
                Ok I will play.. How's this..

                Maternity leave. A legal right that an employee has and the employer must comply. Can be up to a year so needs planning and managing

                Paternity leave for a contractor - Contractors do not get paternity leave. It's a bit of time the contractor is unavailable for work. The reason is irrelevant and really shouldn't be a factor although it can sway peoples personal opinion. A client might be more sympathetic with 3 weeks off for a new born than three weeks on the piss in Vegas. It's not going to be long so it's just an extended holiday that doesn't need planning or management.

                Those differences clearly show the two are completely unrelated except for the fact kids are involved. No irony there.
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  Ok I will play.. How's this..

                  Maternity leave. A legal right that an employee has and the employer must comply. Can be up to a year so needs planning and managing

                  Paternity leave for a contractor - Contractors do not get paternity leave. It's a bit of time the contractor is unavailable for work. The reason is irrelevant and really shouldn't be a factor although it can sway peoples personal opinion. A client might be more sympathetic with 3 weeks off for a new born than three weeks on the piss in Vegas. It's not going to be long so it's just an extended holiday that doesn't need planning or management.

                  Those differences clearly show the two are completely unrelated except for the fact kids are involved. No irony there.
                  It's not just kids, is it? It is births and becoming a new parent involved.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                    Contractors do not get paternity leave.
                    If your employer does not provide it's employees with a legal right, then that's up to them. My employer provided me with two weeks full pay for paternity leave when my child was born, though. I could have declined that, but it was my right to take it, so I did.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
                      If your employer does not provide it's employees with a legal right, then that's up to them. My employer provided me with two weeks full pay for paternity leave when my child was born, though. I could have declined that, but it was my right to take it, so I did.
                      Nice but no where has he mentioned his employer. We are talking about the client here...
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