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How to Approach 'Paternity' Time Off With Potential Clients?

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    #41
    Originally posted by speling bee View Post
    It's not just kids, is it? It is births and becoming a new parent involved.

    Irony, son.
    If they just didn't employ people that are at child bearing age or will be having kids in the near future we wouldn't have all this problem would we.
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      #42
      Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
      If your employer does not provide it's employees with a legal right, then that's up to them. My employer provided me with two weeks full pay for paternity leave when my child was born, though. I could have declined that, but it was my right to take it, so I did.
      its
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        #43
        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
        Nice but no where has he mentioned his employer. We are talking about the client here...
        nowhere
        The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

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          #44
          Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
          Ok I will play.. How's this..

          Maternity leave. A legal right that an employee has and the employer must comply. Can be up to a year so needs planning and managing

          Paternity leave for a contractor - Contractors do not get paternity leave. It's a bit of time the contractor is unavailable for work. The reason is irrelevant and really shouldn't be a factor although it can sway peoples personal opinion. A client might be more sympathetic with 3 weeks off for a new born than three weeks on the piss in Vegas. It's not going to be long so it's just an extended holiday that doesn't need planning or management.

          Those differences clearly show the two are completely unrelated except for the fact kids are involved. No irony there.
          Surely you saw the implied humor in what was being said? Clearly a contractor cant have 'holiday pay' or 'paternity leave', but for the purposes of the joke being made did you see what he was driving at? Or did you not see that at all, did you fell he was talking about actual paternity leave and being 100% serious rather than making a light hearted throw away comment?

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            #45
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            If they just didn't employ people that are at child bearing age or will be having kids in the near future we wouldn't have all this problem would we.
            childbearing
            :grammar various
            The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

            George Frederic Watts

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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              #46
              Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
              Ok I will play.. How's this..

              Maternity leave. A legal right that an employee has and the employer must comply. Can be up to a year so needs planning and managing

              Paternity leave for a contractor - Contractors do not get paternity leave. It's a bit of time the contractor is unavailable for work. The reason is irrelevant and really shouldn't be a factor although it can sway peoples personal opinion. A client might be more sympathetic with 3 weeks off for a new born than three weeks on the piss in Vegas. It's not going to be long so it's just an extended holiday that doesn't need planning or management.

              Those differences clearly show the two are completely unrelated except for the fact kids are involved. No irony there.
              No paternity or maternity leave for contractors. Correct.

              "It's not going to be long so it's just an extended holiday that doesn't need planning or management."

              It does on my project which has 6 weeks to run before completion....... I cannot afford to lose 50% of the scheduled project time.

              You know the irony was for illustration and 'fun' but the issue is serious and I know you agree northernladuk because (although I cannot remember you using the word) you are one of cuk's foremost guardians of professionalism and promoter of correct (sustainable) business values. The OP needs to give careful thought to his approach on this.

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                #47
                Originally posted by reformation View Post
                Surely you saw the implied humor in what was being said? Clearly a contractor cant have 'holiday pay' or 'paternity leave', but for the purposes of the joke being made did you see what he was driving at? Or did you not see that at all, did you fell he was talking about actual paternity leave and being 100% serious rather than making a light hearted throw away comment?
                I did but it's Taita. Look at some of his/her posts you just don't know.
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Taita View Post
                  You know the irony was for illustration and 'fun' but the issue is serious and I know you agree northernladuk because (although I cannot remember you using the word) you are one of cuk's foremost guardians of professionalism and promoter of correct (sustainable) business values. The OP needs to give careful thought to his approach on this.
                  More bollocks
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                    #49
                    Irony (n): The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

                    No irony here; merely unfortunate coincidences.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by dty View Post
                      Irony (n): The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

                      No irony here; merely unfortunate coincidences.
                      That is ironic.

                      However, do you not think life can sometimes be ironic?
                      The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

                      George Frederic Watts

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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