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ways to ditch the agent/agency from the loop

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    #31
    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    But where are you allowing for CUK affecting contractor efficiency?
    Days worked * Day Rate = Cost...?
    Blog? What blog...?

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      #32
      Why

      Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
      Why do you want to ditch the agency as a matter of interest?
      Hi Lisa,

      Why would I want to ditch a parasite? Because its a parasite. It is not even a symbiosis, it is pure parasitic activity I get from an agent. No benefits pure grief.
      To those trying to shame me into guilt because agent "found me a client and facilitated everything" I suggest pulling your heads out of your asses and think again, I mean really zoom out and look at the picture.

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        #33
        Originally posted by gardener View Post
        Hi Lisa,

        Why would I want to ditch a parasite? Because its a parasite. It is not even a symbiosis, it is pure parasitic activity I get from an agent. No benefits pure grief.
        To those trying to shame me into guilt because agent "found me a client and facilitated everything" I suggest pulling your heads out of your asses and think again, I mean really zoom out and look at the picture.
        What a ******* moron.
        Last edited by northernladuk; 20 June 2014, 14:54.
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          #34
          Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
          What a moron.
          I think you've missed a word there, between "a" and "moron". Care to fill in the blank?
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            #35
            Good spot sir. Fixed.
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              #36
              Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
              What a ******* moron.
              He must be a sockie, no one can be that stupid in real life...

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                #37
                Originally posted by gardener View Post
                Hi Lisa,

                Why would I want to ditch a parasite? Because its a parasite. It is not even a symbiosis, it is pure parasitic activity I get from an agent. No benefits pure grief.
                To those trying to shame me into guilt because agent "found me a client and facilitated everything" I suggest pulling your heads out of your asses and think again, I mean really zoom out and look at the picture.
                I've worked direct and via agencies.

                Pros of agencies (IMO)
                - no chasing clients for payment. Most agencies pay contractors on shorter terms than clients will do & your relationship with a client can get a bit strained if you are constantly having to remind them to pay on time.
                - a huge proportion of businesses head to agencies when they have a requirement for a contractor. I use them alongside non-agency networking, but I definitely wouldn't ignore them. I expect them to get a margin for this service - no "guilt" just business.
                - agency repeat business. If you do a good job in one of their clients they will often approach you directly for another client rather than advertise role.
                - rate negotiation. In the past 12 months I've spotted agencies actually beginning to negotiate up rates with clients at the discussion stage. They have an incentive to get the rate as high as possible (commission plus larger pool of contractors) & it saves me doing it!

                On the con side
                - they are sales people & you have to get beyond the spin to find out what the client really wants.
                - contracts are a mixed bag. I'd much rather use my own.
                - they have limited understanding of IR35, Agency Regs etc
                - ridiculous amount of paperwork
                - some of them don't tell the truth about roles they are advertising .....

                But having "pulled my head out of my ass" and "zoomed out and had a look at the picture" I've decided I'm ok with them being part of said picture.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  What a ******* moron.
                  Spoken like a true agent.

                  Boo

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Boo View Post
                    Spoken like a true agent.

                    Boo
                    Yawn.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                      What a ******* moron.
                      interesting, I didn't expect my suggestion to pull your head out of your arse will make you push it all the way back in

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