Role play interview

[d000hg]

Ridiculous! I didn't ask the builder who's doing my extension to show me him building a section of wall..

But you probably got someone to recommend him rather than phone builders at random?

This whole "how dare you expect me to prove I know what I'm doing" attitude is rather arrogant.

[Antman]

But you probably got someone to recommend him rather than phone builders at random?

This whole "how dare you expect me to prove I know what I'm doing" attitude is rather arrogant.

That is correct, the builders come from a recommendation.

The arrogance is something you're seeing. If I didn't know any builders, I'd ask them to come in and ask them to look at the work, I'd ask questions, afterwards I'd make a decision based their answers, any extra information they provided and on a gut feeling. I still wouldn't ask them to build anything, would you?

[eek]

You don't think consultancy companies do presentations to their clients or discuss requirements with them?

Going against general opinion here, but I don't see much wrong with this type of interview for that type of job.

It's not the type of job I'd go for right enough.

I don't think in real life that you would spend 30 minutes preparing for a 50 minute presentation.

[d000hg]

That is correct, the builders come from a recommendation.

The arrogance is something you're seeing. If I didn't know any builders, I'd ask them to come in and ask them to look at the work, I'd ask questions, afterwards I'd make a decision based their answers, any extra information they provided and on a gut feeling. I still wouldn't ask them to build anything, would you?

Asking a builder "how would you tackle this job" will give you a clear indication if they know their stuff. Asking someone "how would you engage a customer" doesn't - it's easier to just do it.


This whole "what would a builder do" thing is asinine. When you want an IT contractor you don't look in yellow pages, when you want a builder you don't post on jobserve. Picking a totally different industry to cherry pick the answers you want to hear is disingenuous.

I am seeing the arrogance, you're right. Because it's right in front of me.

[MicrosoftBob]

This whole "what would a builder do" thing is asinine. When you want an IT contractor you don't look in yellow pages, when you want a builder you don't post on jobserve. Picking a totally different industry to cherry pick the answers you want to hear is disingenuous.

The builders analogy in IT is you build me a house for a fixed price, then I'll tell you what's wrong with and it and what I really want in a house, but I may change my mind repeatedly so you'll have to charge extortionate rates for any changes to be able to make any money

Simples

[jmo21]

I don't think in real life that you would spend 30 minutes preparing for a 50 minute presentation.

How long then? 2 hours? a day?

Part of that type of interview is seeing how you deal with pressure and how quickly you can bulltulip which is one of the most important skills a client facing consultant needs.

[SussexSeagull]

Reeks of disguised employment to me as it something they would do to recruit permanent staff but not procure a supplier.

[d000hg]

Reeks of disguised employment to me as it something they would do to recruit permanent staff but not procure a supplier.

If I was asking a supplier to supply me with some resources (e.g a consultancy), I would want to vet the ones they choose. It's nothing to do with employment.

[DirtyDog]

Reeks of disguised employment to me as it something they would do to recruit permanent staff but not procure a supplier.

They want an FTC, not a contractor. Time to walk away, unless there is nothing else around / you want to waste their time because they work for Cap.

[Antman]

Asking a builder "how would you tackle this job" will give you a clear indication if they know their stuff. Asking someone "how would you engage a customer" doesn't - it's easier to just do it.


This whole "what would a builder do" thing is asinine. When you want an IT contractor you don't look in yellow pages, when you want a builder you don't post on jobserve. Picking a totally different industry to cherry pick the answers you want to hear is disingenuous.

I am seeing the arrogance, you're right. Because it's right in front of me.

Apologies, Also I couldn't think of a better example at the moment than the builders.

The point I was trying to make was that as a decision making process that is fairly artificial when trying to work out how someone will react in a workplace environment there are going to be limits as to what is actually going to help you reach a decision.

You've got your opinion, I've got mine.