Request to work 12 hour shifts out of hours etc

[Old Greg]

Ur usually in a good mood on a friday NLUK :-(

That is a good mood.

[northernladuk]

That is a good mood.

+1

<sigh>

[psychocandy]

+1

PC.. Why do you even contract? You have a dim opinion of any client and suspect they will never be what you want them to be. You clearly don't understand the relationship between you and them and I suspect they will know both of these facts so making life even harder for yourself in the long run. Why do something you know is going to make you miserable?

It is true that clients do tend to piss me off. But then I expect to be treated as I treat others. I.e. fairly and professionally.

But I agree that maybe this is something that is never going to happen.....

Not quite I agree that I don't understand the relationship to be honest. They pay me (maybe via an agency) to perform work which my company does. Both sides perform reasonably and professionally throughout the relationship. Not much to expect.

BTW - yes clients do continually pee me off but the money doesn'nt. But I agree sometimes I do wonder if its worth it.

Trouble is permies get the same if not worse :-(

[No2politics]

It is true that clients do tend to piss me off. But then I expect to be treated as I treat others. I.e. fairly and professionally.

But I agree that maybe this is something that is never going to happen.....

Not quite I agree that I don't understand the relationship to be honest. They pay me (maybe via an agency) to perform work which my company does. Both sides perform reasonably and professionally throughout the relationship. Not much to expect.

BTW - yes clients do continually pee me off but the money doesn'nt. But I agree sometimes I do wonder if its worth it.

Trouble is permies get the same if not worse :-(

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn9E5i7l-Eg

[BlasterBates]

Generally, if you´re contracted with a professional day or you are a permie, whether you do longer hours is a personal decision, obviously this will be reflected in your bonus, pay rise, renewal but no-one has to do it. In the past I have worked longer hours, but it was my own "ambition to get the project finished". These days I think it´s unlikely I would do, I´m quite happy to be laid off at the next round as one of the ones who doesn´t pull their weight as much as others. It is important though to stay focused during your 8 hours so they accept you´re doing your job satisfactorily.

[flipFlop]

Why should you even consider a day rate under these (or indeed any other) circumstances?

Get paid per hour.

[psychocandy]

Why should you even consider a day rate under these (or indeed any other) circumstances?

Get paid per hour.

I didn't. It was on the understanding that shifts were paid at a premium.
Maybe it would have been an idea to get this in the contract at the start but it wasn't going to happen. 8 weeks contract so I had to take a little risk that it would get sorted. Of course, if they'd subsequently decided that they were expecting a 12 hour day for standard day then it would be up to me to walk or not.

It has been sorted though. To be fair, I was happy to do 12 hours at 1.5 whether it be night, day, weekend. Client offered more for nights, weekends so happy with that.

[psychocandy]

It gets worse....

Two weeks ago they asked me to work shifts.

OK. Bit of hassle. Being one hour+ drive away meant a bit of an early start but I was willing to be flexible so there we go. Also, it meant the traffic would be pretty good.

Yes, I know the old IR35 control and direction comes into it a bit here but its only for 7-8 weeks.

So, as you can see, early shifts equal more hours. So week 1 total was something like 41 hours. Week 2 it was 36.5 (due to early finish friday).

You can guess. PM flags week 2 up as 'not enough hours'. Hang on guys - you asked me to do this!

[TheFaQQer]

Hang on guys - you told me to do this!

FTFY

[Old Greg]

FTFY

This is great. If only we could do some kind of chimeric hybrid between PC and suity.