Have been offered an NHS role but offered an extension in current private sector role

[v8gaz]

I wouldn't touch the public sector gig, and I'd make damn sure that they knew why I was refusing it. It's only when the government understand the implications of pissing about with a system that has worked well for years that they will change their minds.

[cojak]

The answer is to put everything through Breeze, which is zero risk.

[d000hg]

I wouldn't touch the public sector gig, and I'd make damn sure that they knew why I was refusing it. It's only when the government understand the implications of pissing about with a system that has worked well for years that they will change their minds.

Which part of paying contractors £500 a day for years to produce crappy, delayed systems that often never even see the light of day is "a system that has worked"?

Unless you mean "worked to line my pockets" in which case they're right to look at it. Although I thought the whole investigation was into people employed who then chose to work through a PSC anyway?

[Taita]

Which part of paying contractors £500 a day for years to produce crappy, delayed systems that often never even see the light of day is "a system that has worked"?

Unless you mean "worked to line my pockets" in which case they're right to look at it. Although I thought the whole investigation was into people employed who then chose to work through a PSC anyway?

Neat Segway into an interesting point. Over £12Billion is the figure I heard. Did anybody admit/accept responsibility for failure?

[speling bee]

Neat Segway into an interesting point. Over £12Billion is the figure I heard. Did anybody admit/accept responsibility for failure?

What was > 12 billion?

[MyUserName]

What was > 12 billion?

13 billion?

[v8gaz]

Which part of paying contractors £500 a day for years to produce crappy, delayed systems that often never even see the light of day is "a system that has worked"?

Unless you mean "worked to line my pockets" in which case they're right to look at it. Although I thought the whole investigation was into people employed who then chose to work through a PSC anyway?

Its not all about the NHS project, it's about public sector use of contractors in general. For information, I have never had a gig in the NHS.

I think you may also find that the 12 billion pound project was run by big consultancies, who may or may not have subcontracted to us one-man bands, but I can assure you that no one-man-band contractor was awarded a 12 billion pound contract, so wind it in.

The investigation was into permies who choose to incorporate, but as ever, government has over-reacted and anyone contracting in the public sector has been (wrongly) caught up. Glad you're keeping up with the news and not simply throwing half-arsed opinions about

[northernladuk]

Its not all about the NHS project, it's about public sector use of contractors in general. For information, I have never had a gig in the NHS.

I think you may also find that the 12 billion pound project was run by big consultancies, who may or may not have subcontracted to us one-man bands, but I can assure you that no one-man-band contractor was awarded a 12 billion pound contract, so wind it in.

The investigation was into permies who choose to incorporate, but as ever, government has over-reacted and anyone contracting in the public sector has been (wrongly) caught up. Glad you're keeping up with the news and not simply throwing half-arsed opinions about

yeah... because that is my job!!!!

[centurian]

It would be a very risky bet to assume that this didn't apply to the NHS

First BBC stars and top civil servants¿ now NHS WORKERS face crackdown on tax avoidance | This is Money

I agree that there might be some temporary respite with Foundation Trusts, but even then, there is nothing to stop an FT from applying these rules - even if they can't be legally forced to do it by central government. Don't be surprised if some FT boards apply these rules anyway thinking it's better to piss off a few contractors rather than face a potential PR mauling in the tabloids.

[speling bee]

It would be a very risky bet to assume that this didn't apply to the NHS

First BBC stars and top civil servants¿ now NHS WORKERS face crackdown on tax avoidance | This is Money

I agree that there might be some temporary respite with Foundation Trusts, but even then, there is nothing to stop an FT from applying these rules - even if they can't be legally forced to do it by central government. Don't be surprised if some FT boards apply these rules anyway thinking it's better to piss off a few contractors rather than face a potential PR mauling in the tabloids.

Holy crap. Good find. We're all doomed.


Remember that the enforcement is not legal. Parliament can do that but not government I think. The enforcement is financial which is tricky as financial flows are more complex than central budget allocation. But non FTs may fall into line. I think many FTs will ignore it and present it as getting value for money by getting better quality or lower rates in a competitive market.