Passport ID

[Gentile]

Which is why NLUKICNCOTBAC.

NLUKINCOTBAC

[Old Greg]

NLUKINCOTBAC

'clearly'

[northernladuk]

I feel the need to point out that both of your links use that magical word "Employer" in their opening sentence. Do I need to remind you of all people, NLUK, that neither your agent nor your client is your employer?

Important wording that renders your Link 1 irrelevant to this discussion

Important wording that renders your Link 2 irrelevant to this discussion

Indeed which is why I went out of the way to post the quote about employer including 'contract of service'. I don't know the legalities of what this means and to be totally honest I don't even care. If an agent or client asks me for this a) it is so petty I just go along with it without even thinking about it and b) you can't blame a company for wanting to protect it's arse from some hefty fines by going a little over the top just because they aren't sure of the wording of the legistlation. Look what we do for IR35 to try go over the top because the legislation is so unclear.

Also bearing in mind the powers that be are trying to prove we are hidden employees that alone would be enough to frighting clients/agents in to carrying out these checks.

Even though I am not sure whether it does or doesn't make it irrelavant it is we clearly have a disconnect from the law to the actions of agents so I don't think pointing out legislation that maybe being incorrectly applied is irrelevant. It is useful to know the basis on why we are being asked (incorrectly) for this.

You are arguing with the wrong person here. It is the clients and the UKBA that need to hear all this. Am just playing devils advocate here.

[northernladuk]

NLUKINCOTBAC

I don't think getting an acronym wrong is a spelling error but I am certainly not going to go find any legistlation to prove that

[Gentile]

I don't think getting an acronym wrong is a spelling error but I am certainly not going to go find any legistlation to prove that

Cheers for the +ve, btw. FWIW, I've tried to +ve a couple of things you and some others have said in recent weeks, but I think I must not use the rep system enough, since anyone I've ever given any reputation of any kind to always comes up as "you must spread more reputation around before giving it to this person again" for me!

[BolshieBastard]

But it is a legal requirement for companies to know if people working for them are eligible to work in the UK (or whatever) and the only way they can do this is with a passport. It isn't a meaningless bureacratic request.

I know you arent in the loop on this because I didnt go into any of the details. Suffice to say, the passport is more than 10 years out of date. I had all this rigmaroll with using an expired passport with other agents so applied for the now defunct ID card. Only you needed a valid passport to get one! (der, who'd apply for an ID card if you had a valid passport but never mind!)

So, I was told the other form of acceptable photo ID was, a photo ID drivers licence! Sooo, I cashed in my old paper one much to my disgust for a photo one. Now I have it, these fockers (hydrogen) wont accept it but will accept a 10+ year out of date passport!

Effing crazy. Eventually I lost my rag with them and told them I would not now be taking up the client's offer due to their pissing about. I also told them they'd lose a lot of good quality contractors because of their pissing about (on other matters).

But, the question still intrigues me, do other contractors slavishly send their full passport ID's, with issue / ident numbers etc clearly shown?

There again, I've heard hardly anyone has complained at the contract which TestMangler tells me is absolutely appalling and looks as good an IR35 fail as you can get. At least I saved 200 quid there!

[northernladuk]

I know you arent in the loop on this because I didnt go into any of the details. Suffice to say, the passport is more than 10 years out of date. I had all this rigmaroll with using an expired passport with other agents so applied for the now defunct ID card. Only you needed a valid passport to get one! (der, who'd apply for an ID card if you had a valid passport but never mind!)

[SueEllen]

But, the question still intrigues me, do other contractors slavishly send their full passport ID's, with issue / ident numbers etc clearly shown?

Lots of agencies I've actually turned up on their doorstep with a copy of my passport in hand.

It's quite amusing as the agent is always shocked.

I then explain to them that anyone can fake a passport so asking just for a scan doesn't fulfil the Home Office criteria.

They then photocopy it in black and white themselves.

On the rare occasion (I actually think it's one) that I've sent a passport scan I put it in black and white and put "COPY" on it.

I've had about 4 agencies where either they wanted to see the real thing so the agency made an effort to meet you at the client (if unlike me you didn't live close to them).

I've had clients through agencies who do the passport check themselves. Oddly they don't photocopy it if you are a EU citizen.

[Old Greg]

I know you arent in the loop on this because I didnt go into any of the details. Suffice to say, the passport is more than 10 years out of date. I had all this rigmaroll with using an expired passport with other agents so applied for the now defunct ID card. Only you needed a valid passport to get one! (der, who'd apply for an ID card if you had a valid passport but never mind!)

So, I was told the other form of acceptable photo ID was, a photo ID drivers licence! Sooo, I cashed in my old paper one much to my disgust for a photo one. Now I have it, these fockers (hydrogen) wont accept it but will accept a 10+ year out of date passport!

Effing crazy. Eventually I lost my rag with them and told them I would not now be taking up the client's offer due to their pissing about. I also told them they'd lose a lot of good quality contractors because of their pissing about (on other matters).

But, the question still intrigues me, do other contractors slavishly send their full passport ID's, with issue / ident numbers etc clearly shown?

There again, I've heard hardly anyone has complained at the contract which TestMangler tells me is absolutely appalling and looks as good an IR35 fail as you can get. At least I saved 200 quid there!

I have a scanned PDF that I email if requested. I can't see it's worth the hassle.

What intrigues me is people who haven't had a passport for 10 years. What is that about?

[BolshieBastard]

I have a scanned PDF that I email if requested. I can't see it's worth the hassle.

What intrigues me is people who haven't had a passport for 10 years. What is that about?

Cos I've had no need to go abroad for 10+ years for various family reasons. That's why.