HAYS contracts

[Pity the fool]

evening all. Long time forum lurker here, but thought i'd sign up to join in.

I too had concerns with the Hays 'contract'. Very unprofessional and unflexible. It refers to an 'Assignment Confirmation Letter' which i literally had to write myself as the agent was clueless about what should go on it. I took the gig as I had very few other options at the time.

Aside from the contract, as others have said they have a fantastic payroll system with weekly frequency. To make them a great agent, they really need to work on the contracts and train their staff so that they know that contractors are not temporary workers of Hays. I was asked to document any employment gaps in the last 2 years. I said I dont have any gaps as I work for my own company. Then I was asked to document any gaps in my CV which to them constitutes a break in employment, which simply is not the case in my opinion.

[Thunder]

Thanks QDOS.

There's a few references in the the the assignment confirmation letter, which I won't have until later this week. I'm thinking I should probably hang fire until that's some along...?

[BolshieBastard]

evening all. Long time forum lurker here, but thought i'd sign up to join in.

I too had concerns with the Hays 'contract'. Very unprofessional and unflexible. It refers to an 'Assignment Confirmation Letter' which i literally had to write myself as the agent was clueless about what should go on it. I took the gig as I had very few other options at the time.

Aside from the contract, as others have said they have a fantastic payroll system with weekly frequency. To make them a great agent, they really need to work on the contracts and train their staff so that they know that contractors are not temporary workers of Hays. I was asked to document any employment gaps in the last 2 years. I said I dont have any gaps as I work for my own company. Then I was asked to document any gaps in my CV which to them constitutes a break in employment, which simply is not the case in my opinion.

They are bellwhiffs like hydrogen who also recently asked me for a 'character reference' for a period I chose not to work. I started putting one liners in my cv 18 months ago to explain periods when I havent worked but this wasnt good enough for them.

I've worked through hayes before and found them to be just a glorified temping agency.

[Qdos Contractor]

Thanks QDOS.

There's a few references in the the the assignment confirmation letter, which I won't have until later this week. I'm thinking I should probably hang fire until that's some along...?

We'd want to check that information, but you could always send the contract in as it is now (so it's in the queue). Then just forward the completed contract once you've got it.

[quackhandle]

Got confirmation from Hays legal dept stating that no contract wording will be changed (in respect to IR35).

Thankfully the client seems sympathetic to it and is willing to sign a Confirmation of Arrangements.

Be interesing if they want me to renew the contract.

qh

[cojak]

Got confirmation from Hays legal dept stating that no contract wording will be changed (in respect to IR35).

Thankfully the client seems sympathetic to it and is willing to sign a Confirmation of Arrangements.

Be interesing if they want me to renew the contract.

qh

I guess that's the same thing as a Letter of Arrangements qh?

[BolshieBastard]

evening all. Long time forum lurker here, but thought i'd sign up to join in.

I too had concerns with the Hays 'contract'. Very unprofessional and unflexible. It refers to an 'Assignment Confirmation Letter' which i literally had to write myself as the agent was clueless about what should go on it. I took the gig as I had very few other options at the time.

Aside from the contract, as others have said they have a fantastic payroll system with weekly frequency. To make them a great agent, they really need to work on the contracts and train their staff so that they know that contractors are not temporary workers of Hays. I was asked to document any employment gaps in the last 2 years. I said I dont have any gaps as I work for my own company. Then I was asked to document any gaps in my CV which to them constitutes a break in employment, which simply is not the case in my opinion.

This is becoming more common and the way agents are designing their on line application forms, simply putting your co as your employer during these breaks or, as your 'employer' throughout your contracting career, flags an error or incomplete information.

See my post about hydrogen \ project partners. I also had the same thing regarding a role crapita had only their break period was a maximum of 28 days!

[NotAllThere]

Got confirmation from Hays legal dept stating that no contract wording will be changed (in respect to IR35). ...

If the client/agent wants you enough, believe me, the contracts will be changed - even with Hays.

"We're not changing it" is simply the default position.

[Scoobos]

In my experience with Hays (albeit back in 2005-2007) as Not All There says, they will change the contract.

I had a brilliant agent, who's still there (in Leeds) and he helped and even suggested resources to use to get my contract checked!

[quackhandle]

As previously mentioned we'll see if there's a renewal on the cards, this will be up for discussion.

Yes, I meant Letter of Arrangements.

qh