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Overtime rate, Nothing in contract

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    #11
    Originally posted by russell View Post
    Neither, but everyone (permie) here works 7 hours days.

    Update: Other contractor says he is on 7.5 hours. Mine just says £XXX per day.
    Saturday and Sunday are days. You have an answer to your question.
    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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      #12
      Originally posted by russell View Post
      I have been asked to work overtime every day, however my contract has nothing about the rate I should charge. I am not keen on doing it for less than 1.5x normal rate. Any advice, should I ask agent? Or just decide what I want to charge.
      Employees are paid overtime. Not good for IR35 purposes ...

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        #13
        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
        Saturday and Sunday are days. You have an answer to your question.
        Not being asked to work Sat/Sun, and I would never do it for 1x normal rate.

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          #14
          Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
          You could be on a hiding to nothing, if its working an extra hour or two on the end of the day I don't think there is any recourse for charging more, just looks more favourable when it comes to renewal. If they are wanting extra days from you, weekends etc you might have some scope for charging them more.
          Agree with SimonMac. Just because everyone else works 7 hours means nothing. You signed up for a day rate unfortunately.

          Not having a go like, but surely you know that a little bit extra is being professional? i.e. Getting up at spot on 7 hours aint gonna work in your favour.

          Dont get me wrong, I work a little bit extra but then I expect the favour in return if I want to go early one day.

          And weekend is different - if they want work done then its same day rate.
          Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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            #15
            Originally posted by russell View Post
            Not being asked to work Sat/Sun, and I would never do it for 1x normal rate.
            Then you have the answer to your question in your situation.
            'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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              #16
              Speak to the agent and get it written in to the contract. I had to make a few changes to my contract, a few weeks in. They might just divide the daily rate by number of hours, i.e. £120 / 7.5 = £16 an hour.

              You will need to make sure you can enter an hourly rate as well as a day rate on the timesheet.

              Not sure if you're taxed more on overtime rates (as in permie employees are).

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                #17
                Originally posted by russell View Post
                Not being asked to work Sat/Sun, and I would never do it for 1x normal rate.
                Oh dear.

                Not cool mate. Again, dont get me wrong, I wont put my family out in order to work at the weekends especially if its the result of poor organisation by the client. If I cant do it, then its tough luck. Also, if they want anything done then they let me do it from home if they want it done. No being childish and insisting I come into office unless I have to.

                If you ask me though, day rate is day rate. Cant see you getting more for weekends. But good luck with that one.
                Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by disarm View Post
                  Speak to the agent and get it written in to the contract. I had to make a few changes to my contract, a few weeks in. They might just divide the daily rate by number of hours, i.e. £120 / 7.5 = £16 an hour.

                  You will need to make sure you can enter an hourly rate as well as a day rate on the timesheet.

                  Not sure if you're taxed more on overtime rates (as in permie employees are).
                  WTF? How are permies taxed more on overtime rates? Bollox.

                  HMRC have no idea what your particular income refers to - its all just income. If you go over tax bands then, yes, the rate of tax will be more but it doesnt matter if its regular salary or overtime that causes you to go into that rate.

                  £120 a day?
                  Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by disarm View Post
                    Speak to the agent and get it written in to the contract. I had to make a few changes to my contract, a few weeks in. They might just divide the daily rate by number of hours, i.e. £120 / 7.5 = £16 an hour.

                    You will need to make sure you can enter an hourly rate as well as a day rate on the timesheet.

                    Not sure if you're taxed more on overtime rates (as in permie employees are).
                    What a load of tosh. I hope to god you have had your contract IR35 checked with that mindset.
                    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                      WTF? How are permies taxed more on overtime rates? Bollox.

                      HMRC have no idea what your particular income refers to - its all just income. If you go over tax bands then, yes, the rate of tax will be more but it doesnt matter if its regular salary or overtime that causes you to go into that rate.

                      £120 a day?
                      When I was permanent, I was always taxed more on overtime pay. Thought it was the case across the board.

                      £120 a day is just an example, depends on the job of course...

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