Long term temps entitled to redundancy?

[cojak]

I suspect that they are clearing out old contracts ready to bring in the new type.

[Sockpuppet]

It is quite difficult to see what employers can gain from employing any non permanent staff for more than a three month period from 1st October. Will employers really check or insist that potential employees are ltd rather than temps?

I assume if my employers are getting jittery about this others will follow suit.

A flexible workforce. If you've been there 6 years you're not flexible and you should be a permie. I certainly wouldn't rate your chances in an IR35 investigation. Unless you're like most people on here who do short term contracts and move on.

[northernladuk]

I suspect that they are clearing out old contracts ready to bring in the new type.

I would guess they are clearing out the people that don't understand how they provide work to clients and are getting in people that know what they are doing.

My client has a pretty clear distinction between perms and contractors which is great for us IR35 wise but I don't think they would be particlularly happy if the contractors started acting like perms.

[cojak]

A flexible workforce. If you've been there 6 years you're not flexible and you should be a permie. I certainly wouldn't rate your chances in an IR35 investigation. Unless you're like most people on here who do short term contracts and move on.

WSPS

I received a 6 month extension for the 1st time in 3 years.

To my surprise I wasn't happy about it as I was making plans to leave after 3 months.

There's just no pleasing some people...

[robin]

Unless you're like most people on here who do short term contracts and move on.

Just out of interest what do you guys consider to be a short term contract, as to me that's around 6 months if not less but I have spoken to others where up to a year is considered short, that would be long to me!!!

[Sockpuppet]

Just out of interest what do you guys consider to be a short term contract, as to me that's around 6 months if not less but I have spoken to others where up to a year is considered short, that would be long to me!!!

I'd say a year on the same thing and that's bordering on two long.

[contractoralan]

@Dandyman Are you paying up under IR35 ?

If you are not, then forget about redundancy payment. All these years, you have claimed yourself to be a business. If you intend to ask for redundancy pay, HMRC is likely to be after you for IR35 payments.

If you have paid under IR35, then you may think about it. What is your rate compared to a permie? If you have been well paid, then in my opinion, you have been already compensated for being a 'temp' . If you have been on really low rates, comparable to a permie, then you might have an argument. If you have been on permie rates for 6 years, then you should reconsider your 'career' choice. You started in 2005, when rates were high.

[craig1]

The place I'm at now is making a concerted effort to distance itself from contractors. When I started, I brought along my own laptop and everything else ready to work without any need to ask the client to provide anything, another guy starting at the same time kicked up all sorts of fuss about not getting a PC or laptop and even got sniffy when they told him that company mobiles were for permies only.

The agency as well made a huge and painful effort to investigate whether I was truly "in business on my own account" to ensure I wouldn't be caught under either the MSC regulations or under the forthcoming AWR stuff. They truly need to streamline that though as they set a very high bar that could stop a lot of run-of-the-mill contractors from taking up a role.

[eek]

They truly need to streamline that though as they set a very high bar that could stop a lot of run-of-the-mill contractors from taking up a role.

Provided you meet the criteria and you appear to why is that a problem? Surely the less contractors on the market the better for all of us?

[craig1]

Provided you meet the criteria and you appear to why is that a problem? Surely the less contractors on the market the better for all of us?

True... it does sort the wheat from the chaff but it also catches genuine business relationships and setups in their daft process. See my thread previously about LLP structures.