Boom!

[malvolio]

Don't wait for Sky (or BSkyB - you may aas well use the right name ) to do anything. I've never worked at such a deranged, disorganised operation (apart from Orange, that is). For example the campus is on a a no-through road one lane wide, with two petrol stations at the entrance, under the flight path to Heathrow and within the likely exclusion zone should there be a terrorist attack or similar at Heathrow. So why would they need a Disaster Plan...?

Also they have their own interpretation on "contractors". They're the independent production companies who supply them with material. "Temps" are the low-paid runners and gofers who work for the "contractors" in the hope of getting a decent job in the meeja.

Everybody else, as far as they are concerned, are employees.

[d000hg]

I know some of the IR35 conditions is based on working practices, and aware of some of the implications.

ClientCo: ring-ring, ring-ring, ring-... "Hello, ClientCo HR"
HMRC: hi this is Hector, we're ringing to ask a couple of questions about pmeswani, we understand he is doing some contract work for you?
ClientCo: let me check... [taps on keyboard]... oh yes that's right, he's working here on a contract right now but it's a contract-to-perm arrangement.
HMRC: thanks, that's what we wanted to know


As soon as HMRC talk to your employer/client, you're screwed.

[AngelOfTheNorth]

Don't wait for Sky (or BSkyB - you may aas well use the right name ) to do anything. I've never worked at such a deranged, disorganised operation (apart from Orange, that is). For example the campus is on a a no-through road one lane wide, with two petrol stations at the entrance, under the flight path to Heathrow and within the likely exclusion zone should there be a terrorist attack or similar at Heathrow. So why would they need a Disaster Plan...?

Also they have their own interpretation on "contractors". They're the independent production companies who supply them with material. "Temps" are the low-paid runners and gofers who work for the "contractors" in the hope of getting a decent job in the meeja.

Everybody else, as far as they are concerned, are employees.

Ive already said how much Sky sucked to work with, but nobody wanted to listen. Well more fool them ....... especially when they realise the commute they are going to have to endure each day. A more inaccessible place in 'London' Ive yet to encounter. You can't walk there, theres virtually no public transport around. You might be able to rely on their shuttle bus service if you can get a seat ....... you drive there and its a nightmare.

And thats all before youve even sat in your seat ready to work!

[pmeswani]

ClientCo: ring-ring, ring-ring, ring-... "Hello, ClientCo HR"
HMRC: hi this is Hector, we're ringing to ask a couple of questions about pmeswani, we understand he is doing some contract work for you?
ClientCo: let me check... [taps on keyboard]... oh yes that's right, he's working here on a contract right now but it's a contract-to-perm arrangement.
HMRC: thanks, that's what we wanted to know


As soon as HMRC talk to your employer/client, you're screwed.

Firstly, my contract is with the agency and not with the client direct. Even though there has been discussion with the client about going perm, it has not been set in stone. As far as I know, it is a preference of the hiring manager, and not a HR enforced requirement. If the client has an arrangement with the agency for me to have a contract-to-perm arrangement, then on a formal basis, the agent hasn't mentioned it to me.

I am fairly certain that if HMRC do contact the client, they won't say that I am working on a contract to perm arrangement, and it won't be in the clients best interest to state something that may not have been formally agreed with the agency.

[b0redom]

You're asuming HR have a clue. My experience was different.

[pmeswani]

Ive already said how much Sky sucked to work with, but nobody wanted to listen. Well more fool them ....... especially when they realise the commute they are going to have to endure each day. A more inaccessible place in 'London' Ive yet to encounter. You can't walk there, theres virtually no public transport around. You might be able to rely on their shuttle bus service if you can get a seat ....... you drive there and its a nightmare.

And thats all before youve even sat in your seat ready to work!

I don't know which site you worked at, but the site I will be located at, there are 4 or 5 stations in reasonable walking distance to and from the site. Also, there are 3 or 4 buses that go within 100 metres of the site. The other site, based on http://corporate.sky.com/documents/p...y_osterley.pdf, has 2 train stations (Osterley underground and Syon Lane main line) and is in reasonable walking distance from bus stops that serve Boston Manor.

As I am not based at the other site (The one near Tesco's), I won't lose any sleep regarding my commute to that site.

I am sure a lot of people will have negative things to say about every company they have worked for, so until I have worked for them, I will hold back on forming my own judgement.

[pmeswani]

You're asuming HR have a clue. My experience was different.

Yep I agree with that statement. But at the same time, I don't think they would shoot themselves in the foot.

[AngelOfTheNorth]

As I am not based at the other site (The one near Tesco's), I won't lose any sleep regarding my commute to that site.

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Well I was and trust me .... twas not the leisurely commute you assume it is.

[AngelOfTheNorth]

Yep I agree with that statement. But at the same time, I don't think they would shoot themselves in the foot.

I don't get the bit where you dont think they would shoot themselves in the foot. Why would they care if they said they took you on as a contractor with a view to going permanent?

[pmeswani]

I don't get the bit where you dont think they would shoot themselves in the foot. Why would they care if they said they took you on as a contractor with a view to going permanent?

You are assuming that HR are aware of the discussion between the Hiring manager and myself.

Because I advised the client I would consider going perm, it doesn't mean that I will be going perm at the end of the contract term. For HR to say something that is not factually correct would not be in their best interest.