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    #21
    Hey Guys,

    I probably deserved all the responses from you guys currently sitting in the middle of it. It's easy to be naive when you're not in the country and don't completely understand all the laws because the mumbo jumbo you read on the internet is riddled with terms that can only be understood by someone that has a law degree and even some of those guys would have to reference those 2000 page books you usually see behind their desks So I do apologize for my naivety as well as my ignorance to the current situation in the UK.

    I do have to say though that this is one of the reasons why I came to a site dedicated to contractors in the UK to ask questions. If you don't ask the people in that market you'll only be fed the bull that the agents and the news tell you and as we all know they don't always tell the truth or give the full story

    If what Bite is doing is illegal, and I can believe that this is true, then I'll find another way. I'm not looking to break the law in a country to which I want to move on a permanent basis. At least there are a number of ways to get into the country and I would rather follow the correct procedures than try and find a back door that could be frowned upon.

    Once again I do apologize for not understanding what you guys are going through at the moment.

    Just for interest sake the thread I was talking about is:

    http://forums.contractoruk.com/busin...onsulting.html

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      #22
      R U over 28?

      Friendly bunch aren't they? I've got 6 Brit contractors here at my site in Sydney on 457 visas....they come over here, steal our jobs, whinge about our beer, etc, etc.

      If you are under 26? 28? you could apply for visa that allows you to work in the UK and work thru an umbrella co...

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        #23
        Friendly is a very strong word in this case No matter though. I do understand their frustrations and their position. It's not always the easier thing to be a contractor and you do carry more risk than a permie. The cool thing is that you tend to earn more than a permie when you have a job. I'm sure the UK market will pick up again this year and when it does most of these guys will probably smile again, until then they'll be grumpy and unfriendly and in all just contracting type personalities.

        Anyway the advice and answers they gave is valid and I am taking that into consideration and it does open my eyes a bit on the true unadvertised reality in the UK.

        Unfortunately I'm over 28. It's fine though. I have a few interviews next week with some of the financial institutions in the UK for a permie roles where they're willing to do the sponsorship for me when I'm successful. So, if everything goes according to plan then I'll still be in the UK soon albeit not as a contractor... At least I'll then be able to move into contracting when these guys have work again and the market is back to what it should be.

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          #24
          I bet they don't work for 20p a day though.

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            #25
            Originally posted by TaliesinAirt View Post
            I probably deserved all the responses from you guys currently sitting in the middle of it.
            It's not personal. Your posts are friendly and polite, and you came here in good faith to ask questions. Many people in the UK have been made redundant from permanent jobs, are unable to find contract positions and have taken big rate cuts because of people being transferred in from abroad on very dubious grounds, so it touches a raw nerve. I'm sure, if you can find a legal and ethical way of working in the UK, no-one will wish you ill.

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              #26
              Originally posted by k2p2 View Post
              It's not personal. Your posts are friendly and polite, and you came here in good faith to ask questions. Many people in the UK have been made redundant from permanent jobs, are unable to find contract positions and have taken big rate cuts because of people being transferred in from abroad on very dubious grounds, so it touches a raw nerve. I'm sure, if you can find a legal and ethical way of working in the UK, no-one will wish you ill.
              WSS.
              "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
              - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                #27
                Originally posted by Captain Kangaroo View Post
                Friendly bunch aren't they? I've got 6 Brit contractors here at my site in Sydney on 457 visas....they come over here, steal our jobs, whinge about our beer, etc, etc.

                If you are under 26? 28? you could apply for visa that allows you to work in the UK and work thru an umbrella co...
                Yes because Australia has a skills shortage, your government actively encourages skilled people to fill the void, in contrast the UK doesn't need a skills top-up.

                You should be grateful that the lure of sunshine and BBQ's is enough to negate the cultural vacuum.
                Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by HairyArsedBloke View Post
                  Anyone fancy a late winter / early spring holiday?
                  No - that would be juvenile.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
                    Yes because Australia has a skills shortage, your government actively encourages skilled people to fill the void, in contrast the UK doesn't need a skills top-up.

                    You should be grateful that the lure of sunshine and BBQ's is enough to negate the cultural vacuum.
                    No skill shortage here in Oz for IT workers - Consulting companies find it more cost effective to import skills than retrain available workers - sound familiar?

                    Cultural vaccum? How lucky we are to receive example of Great Brit culture like 'Midsomer Murders', 'The Bill', etc... revenge for Oz soaps I suppose...

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                      #30
                      I just had to reply to this after reading it. You sound like the biggest bunch of pathetic, whinging, nasty trolls. It is no wonder you were out of work, companies don't like to keep people who can't get along with others. I hope you are still unemployed. The person asking the question was polite and courteous and all the responses were completely out of order.

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