Job interview(permie) - Bad if they don't ask for your salary expectations ?

[nomadd]

Not the right thing to do - as per previous post, discuss all salary requirements via the agent - that way you can play harder ball without harming any potential relationships before starting the role

Wrong. Completely.

Always discuss salary with the client for a permie role. That way you don't get them shafting you, or the agent shafting you. Make sure everyone is on the same page, so the bullsh1t is avoided later down the line. If you are going to play "hard ball" with someone, then it might as well be with the person who actually has the money, rather than some greedy intermediary who just wants their commission at any cost.

Nomadd

[Pondlife]

Wrong. Completely.

Always discuss salary with the client for a permie role. That way you don't get them shafting you, or the agent shafting you. Make sure everyone is on the same page, so the bulltulip is avoided later down the line. If you are going to play "hard ball" with someone, then it might as well be with the person who actually has the money, rather than some greedy intermediary who just wants their commission at any cost.

Nomadd

Not so.

For a permie position through an agency the commission is most likely a % of first year's salary. Since both you and the agency both get paid directly by the client, the agency has no way of shafting you. In fact, the higher your salary, the higher their commission.

You talk to the guy who writes the cheques.

HTH

[nomadd]

Not so.

For a permie position through an agency the commission is most likely a % of first year's salary. Since both you and the agency both get paid directly by the client, the agency has no way of shafting you. In fact, the higher your salary, the higher their commission.

You talk to the guy who writes the cheques.

HTH

True, but the problem is you've still taken yourself out of the loop.

Let's face it, the agency, in these difficult times, is going to take any commission they can get. If the client starts to play hard ball, then the agent is the first to back down, and then give you a sob story about how difficult the market is, yada, yada, yada. I've been dealing with agents for 30 years, and I have no faith in them whatsoever. But hey, we are stuck with them.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I just like to have control in my hands, not some scumbag agent who will screw me for their little bit of commission and then forget about me as quickly as they can whilst they jump onto their next punter. Remember, they can make their money by volume, we can't. Look after number 1, and all that.

Nomadd

[NotAllThere]

On the one hand you might find the agency won't fight to get the best salary they can, and thereby increase their income, on the other hand, you risk antagonising the employer.