Agents commissions

[pmeswani]

I am sorry to disagree but we do not "do very little" We work on a contingency basis which means only a very small amount of what we do turns into a fee earning placement.

Every interview that you attend and every job that your CV gets put forward for is the result of hours and hours of hard work. If you decide not to take a job or not turn up to an interview that represents someone's time and energy wasted. Only by playing the numbers game and creating 10 such opportunities for 10 contractors will a recruiter have any chance of making one placement.

You people have no idea of how sales and marketing actually work. When your precious client like say HBOS makes money, its sales and marketing people are actually only landing 1 in ten of the opportunities that they are presented with.

After spending some 4 or 5 years in a IT Security Reseller environment, I have grown to have a very thick skin towards pushy / arrogant (sp?) sales peope. I get on with them from a non-work prospective, but, unfortunately, they often don't have a clue and can only blame themselves for not securing a deal. Saying that, They do work hard to earn a crust, and for that... give credit where it is due.

[DodgyAgent]

After spending some 4 or 5 years in a IT Security Reseller environment, I have grown to have a very thick skin towards pushy / arrogant (sp?) sales peope. I get on with them from a non-work prospective, but, unfortunately, they often don't have a clue and can only blame themselves for not securing a deal. Saying that, They do work hard to earn a crust, and for that... give credit where it is due.

We may be as slimey and odious as Robert Kilroy-Silk but we still have to work very hard to make it in what is one of the hardest and most competitive businesses.

[P1mpAndPr0ud]

We may be as slimey and odious as Robert Kilroy-Silk but we still have to work very hard to make it in what is one of the hardest and most competitive businesses.

Speak for yourself!

I'm nowhere NEAR as slimy as RKS. Mandelson, maybe...

Don't forget the aggressive targeting, sadistic management and long-hours culture that are endemic in the recruitment business, and is it any wonder the average recruiter has a 4-year career?

Rant over.

[DodgyAgent]

Speak for yourself!

I'm nowhere NEAR as slimy as RKS. Mandelson, maybe...

Don't forget the aggressive targeting, sadistic management and long-hours culture that are endemic in the recruitment business, and is it any wonder the average recruiter has a 4-year career?

Rant over.

Either you are slimey or you are useless.
Which is it?

Having said that Mandelson slime level is more than enough

[P1mpAndPr0ud]

Either you are slimey or you are useless.
Which is it?

Having said that Mandelson slime level is more than enough

You don't have to be slimy to be successful...

...but it helps!

By the way, got any requirements you need filling?!

[DodgyAgent]

You don't have to be slimy to be successful...

...but it helps!

By the way, got any requirements you need filling?!

If I had I wouldnt be posting on this board

[EternalOptimist]

If I had I wouldnt be posting on this board

go on dodgy, get feral with him

[NickFitz]

Website opens.
Contractors contribute their comments on agencies.
Some agencies don't like what they read about themselves.
They call their solicitor.
The solicitor writes to the webmaster.
The critical posts are removed and/or the website shut down.

You think I don't know that?

[TheFaQQer]

shouldnt you be doing this FaQQer?:

Nah - anyone who finds me work earns his crust!

Actually, I don't think I've asked an agent what they take, since if I'm not happy with the rate, I don't take the role

[TheFaQQer]

DA

Alot of the issues and things being said in this thread is that Agents in general do VERY LITTLE for what they get paid. This is the bottom line. You sit their [not you personally] with a database which youve probably stolen anyway from your previous and type in keywords and bobs your uncle.

This is just inherent of the indsutry you are in and the legacy reputation from wide boys over the past 10 years.

I am of the opinion that if I get my desired rate - I dont really mind what you get - but the down side of that is that when the company I am contracting for is culling; if you are charging more - the liklihood is that the contractor will have a higher chance of being removed.

Case in question is my previous contract - I went through an assosicate of the PSL so my agent was making 15%, Spring I beleive were making 20% and the end client were being billed like £1200 a day for me. Of course this is a slight change in terms of the example - but do you see my point?

What value do you, as an agent personally provide above and beyond what 95% of the Monkies in your industry do?

When you get a role in - dont tell me you dont look at your databse? If you fill a Perm role what have you done to get 25% on it? Honest question. Lets say you fill a 80k role - what have you done to get the 20k?

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What value do you, as an agent personally provide? I suggest they spend some time correcting spelling and poor punctuation in CVs.