Agents commissions

[Another Dodgy Agent]

[QUOTE=TheFaQQer;688368]Awwwww - those poor recruitment agents! /QUOTE]

Not that poor, as I type I am just gazing fondly at my new Omega, right I am off to test drive that new Aston...recession my tulip

[DodgyAgent]

Okay, got my Devil's Advocate hat on now, so here we go..

Why should we be transparent? Are you transparent with your Agency about the difference between what you need to earn to survive each month and what your Ltd is charging them? This is, in effect, your "margin", and I should imagine that you are as protective over this as an EB is over theirs!

Would you, for example, say to an Agent who called you: "Thanks for the offer of £450 a day, but I don't really need it. I need £350 to get by, so that'll do". Thought not!

A better answer to any tw*t of a contractor who wants to pass judgement on an agents margin is>

No f**k off and get on with your job, what I earn is none of your business.

[Another Dodgy Agent]

A better answer to any tw*t of a contractor who wants to pass judgement on an agents margin is>

No f**k off and get on with your job, what I earn is none of your business.

WHS

[DodgyAgent]

WHS

We should not be made to feel guilty by some of these small minded pri**s. These contractors are quite happy to take their earnings from the likes of Tesco who charge 4000% mark ups on their cabbages, or Royal Bank of Scotland who rip off their customers with dodgy PPI products.

There is no moral high ground that they can claim unless they are prepared to put their hands up to hypocrisy. The only legitimate concern which I do agree with is if they are being charged out by the agency at a vastly inflated rate thus exposing them to being cut out as they are so expensive. This however is very rare.

If your margin is 25% or 5% some of these contractors will whine like mad, so you may as well take the higher margin, be proud of it and if the contractor doesnt like it then he can always go and find a contract elsewhere.

[TheFaQQer]

A better answer to any tw*t of a contractor who wants to pass judgement on an agents margin is>

No f**k off and get on with your job, what I earn is none of your business.

[TheFaQQer]

Not that poor, as I type I am just gazing fondly at my new Omega

It's made by Vauxhall - it can't be that good

[Another Dodgy Agent]

It's made by Vauxhall - it can't be that good

If its good enough for Mr. Bond then its good enough for me!

[DodgyAgent]

shouldnt you be doing this FaQQer?:

[Liability]

A better answer to any tw*t of a contractor who wants to pass judgement on an agents margin is>

No f**k off and get on with your job, what I earn is none of your business.

DA

Alot of the issues and things being said in this thread is that Agents in general do VERY LITTLE for what they get paid. This is the bottom line. You sit their [not you personally] with a database which youve probably stolen anyway from your previous and type in keywords and bobs your uncle.

This is just inherent of the indsutry you are in and the legacy reputation from wide boys over the past 10 years.

I am of the opinion that if I get my desired rate - I dont really mind what you get - but the down side of that is that when the company I am contracting for is culling; if you are charging more - the liklihood is that the contractor will have a higher chance of being removed.

Case in question is my previous contract - I went through an assosicate of the PSL so my agent was making 15%, Spring I beleive were making 20% and the end client were being billed like £1200 a day for me. Of course this is a slight change in terms of the example - but do you see my point?

What value do you, as an agent personally provide above and beyond what 95% of the Monkies in your industry do?

When you get a role in - dont tell me you dont look at your databse? If you fill a Perm role what have you done to get 25% on it? Honest question. Lets say you fill a 80k role - what have you done to get the 20k?

[DodgyAgent]

DA

Alot of the issues and things being said in this thread is that Agents in general do VERY LITTLE for what they get paid. This is the bottom line. You sit their [not you personally] with a database which youve probably stolen anyway from your previous and type in keywords and bobs your uncle.

This is just inherent of the indsutry you are in and the legacy reputation from wide boys over the past 10 years.

I am of the opinion that if I get my desired rate - I dont really mind what you get - but the down side of that is that when the company I am contracting for is culling; if you are charging more - the liklihood is that the contractor will have a higher chance of being removed.

Case in question is my previous contract - I went through an assosicate of the PSL so my agent was making 15%, Spring I beleive were making 20% and the end client were being billed like £1200 a day for me. Of course this is a slight change in terms of the example - but do you see my point?

What value do you, as an agent personally provide above and beyond what 95% of the Monkies in your industry do?

When you get a role in - dont tell me you dont look at your databse? If you fill a Perm role what have you done to get 25% on it? Honest question. Lets say you fill a 80k role - what have you done to get the 20k?

I am sorry to disagree but we do not "do very little" We work on a contingency basis which means only a very small amount of what we do turns into a fee earning placement.

Every interview that you attend and every job that your CV gets put forward for is the result of hours and hours of hard work. If you decide not to take a job or not turn up to an interview that represents someone's time and energy wasted. Only by playing the numbers game and creating 10 such opportunities for 10 contractors will a recruiter have any chance of making one placement.

You people have no idea of how sales and marketing actually work. When your precious client like say HBOS makes money, its sales and marketing people are actually only landing 1 in ten of the opportunities that they are presented with.