don't they just do your head in? forever going on training courses at ClientCo's expense, going along to all the corporate "blue skies" ra-ra-ra full-company meetings, trying to convince me i need to ask them for permission for time off because they're "senior" (i.e. been on this particular gravy train for a few months longer)....and all the while, running their businesses as if they're not IR35 caught.
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44not your problem, just get on and do your job instead of criticising others' working practices72.73%32they ruin it for the rest of us and should go perm or eff off27.27%12Originally posted by BolshieBastard -
Where's the AndyW option???
Just let 'em get on with it and if you're feeling spiteful have a chuckle if/when they're investigated.Proud owner of +5 Xeno Geek Points -
Dunno, but my last contract lasted 18 years and definitely wasn't IR35 caught.
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sorry, to clarify, this isn't about length of contract / servitude, it's about working practices, people who drink the corporate Kool-Aid and then try and p!ss it all over everyone else.Originally posted by ASB View PostDunno, but my last contract lasted 18 years and definitely wasn't IR35 caught.Originally posted by BolshieBastardComment
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I realise that. It is, as your accept, largely about attitude. However I would always insist on permission for time off. It wouldn't be unreasonably withheld, but if I didn't know what was requested all my planning was fairly pointless. I did find in general that where contractors were in the team they were more amenable to accepting a few days at the wrong point could have a far more substantial impact on the project. The permies were the problem - lack of notice, sulks if denied etc.Originally posted by lambrini_socialist View PostComment
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insist?Originally posted by BolshieBastardComment
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Yes, though that may be putting it a bit strongly. As I said it would not be unreasonably withheld. The impact of somebody having say 3 days off at the wrong point could easily be 20 times that due to non delivery of critical components etc - however this would be comparatively rare but nevertheless could happen. It is only in these sorts of situation requests would be refusedOriginally posted by lambrini_socialist View Post
The contractors would generally understand this, and we could generally come to some arrangement - normally very easily if they were giving a reasonable amount of notice of their request.
You seem to think it's perfectly OK for you to simply say "not coming in tomorrow" and your customer should just accept that. That's your perogative of course, but I wouldn't accept it (unless they were in fact contractually entitled to).
If you had engaged somebody to paint your house in a given timeframe and they turned round and said "not going to meet that timeframe and I'm off for a few days anyway" would you just be saying "yes, that's fine. No worries" ?Comment
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no, i really don't, honest, that's not what i'm getting at. generally speaking i'd say that's a bad way to behave. the topic of time off has been done to death anyway.Originally posted by ASB View Post
what i'm actually whining about is certain types of contractor, not about the customer. there is a difference between the two despite the best efforts of some contractors i know to blur the distinction! (except in their accounting, natch, when they suddenly become businesses again).Originally posted by BolshieBastardComment
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Certainly I've seen quite a lot who exhibit the traits you describe. It makes no difference to me. If they want (or expect) to be treated like perms then I'd do so. If they wanted to be treated in a more businesslike manner then I'd do so. For me it was mainly about how we'd set objectives and timescales.Originally posted by lambrini_socialist View PostComment
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