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Do you manage to escape IR35?

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    Do you manage to escape IR35?

    I was glad to find I do, but I was expecting it because I work from home on my own PC, and none of my contracts guarantee me work or specify my working hours.

    It sounds like lots of standard contractors also escape IR35, is this true? How do you manage that, because if you go onsite each day 9-5 on a 6 month contract, isn't this close enough to employment to be exactly what IR35 was designed to catch?
    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
    Originally posted by vetran
    Urine is quite nourishing

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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    I was glad to find I do, but I was expecting it because I work from home on my own PC, and none of my contracts guarantee me work or specify my working hours.

    It sounds like lots of standard contractors also escape IR35, is this true? How do you manage that, because if you go onsite each day 9-5 on a 6 month contract, isn't this close enough to employment to be exactly what IR35 was designed to catch?
    No. Nor does working lilke you do necessarily put you outside. Read the guides.
    Blog? What blog...?

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      #3
      Originally posted by d000hg View Post
      It sounds like lots of standard contractors also escape IR35
      You never really know if you escape IR35 until the Taxman has done an investigation. One of the killers of this regulation is the sheer vagueness... you can have an IR35-friendly contract(s).

      I've learned a lot by lurking....

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        #4
        Originally posted by d000hg View Post
        I was glad to find I do, but I was expecting it because I work from home on my own PC, and none of my contracts guarantee me work or specify my working hours.

        It sounds like lots of standard contractors also escape IR35, is this true? How do you manage that, because if you go onsite each day 9-5 on a 6 month contract, isn't this close enough to employment to be exactly what IR35 was designed to catch?
        You've obviously done a lot of research into the subject.
        Blood in your poo

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          #5
          The only way you will definitely be outside IR35 is when IR35 is abolished. You can pretend not to be a full-time employee by using the tactics you describe but if you work for a client for any length of time you are liable to be caught by IR35.
          Permanent employees also work at home using their own laptops you know.

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            #6
            I read all the guides and it seemed that not being guaranteed work was a big plus in evading IR35. Providing your own equipment was also listed on the government website as a factor.
            Originally posted by MaryPoppins
            I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
            Originally posted by vetran
            Urine is quite nourishing

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              #7
              Originally posted by d000hg View Post
              It sounds like lots of standard contractors also escape IR35, is this true? How do you manage that, ...
              I find burning dead badgers on a Sunday while sticking needles in an effigy of Dawn Primarolo gets me around the legislation.

              Others find getting advice from the PCG is a little more contemporary.
              If you think my attitude stinks, you should smell my fingers.

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                #8
                I dont rely on a few factors, I think of the whole package. My contract is IR35 friendly, but I also do a common sense self appraisal.. i.e do I honestly see myself as a permanent around my place of work. The answer is always no. I get treated like a contractor, I get excluded from company events, I work days that permies got off (and paid for) like the 24th, I dont do appraisal team meetins, and alsways ask to leave whenh the team meetings start talking about team objectives. I dont partake of team training exercises. I very rarely stay in contracts longer than 6-9 months, I dont want to, I am not looking for stability and safety in a career.

                Its not about ticking a certain amount of boxes, as you will never know if you ahve ticked enough until the tax man comes knocking. Its more about believing and acting like you are not an employee.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by adestor View Post
                  ... if you work for a client for any length of time you are liable to be caught by IR35...
                  wrong.
                  Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by adestor View Post
                    if you work for a client for any length of time you are liable to be caught by IR35.
                    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                    wrong.
                    Isn't there an example of a successful defence of someone who worked with the same client for over 10 years? Length of time has nothing to do with it.
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