Sunday shift cover

[ruth11]

Hi
I'm working for a company on £x day rate, Monday - Friday. 8 hour professional day assumed.
Have just been asked if I can cover a Sunday shift of 12 hours (7am-7pm) with the offer of time off in return (works for permies, but not me!).

What kind of response would you give? I'd like to say ok, but I'd need £x times y for the day. If I say yes, how much should y be?

Similar for 12 hour shift on a Monday too (been asked to do both or one of Sunday and Monday).

Should I not be saying yes based on IR35? Any thoughts at all appreciated.
Thanks

[oracleslave]

I would charge time and a half on weekends.

[funkyd]

First off you're not a permie.

Secondly it's double time on a Sunday isn't it?

You should be deciding when to do your work, not them. Covering for people and things like shifts sounds like permie work to me...

[Crossroads]

Obviously the Sunday bit might not fit with your personal circumstances, but based on your current 8x5 working pattern, if you did both shifts you could potentially reduce to 4 days/week but still doing the same number of hours.

[DaveB]

If you are on a standard day rate with no specified hours then you are stuffed for the Monday shift. They can class it as part of your normal working hours - professional day and all that. For a 12 hour Sunday shift go for at least time and a half.

Personally I wouldn't do it. But thats just me.

[Sausage Surprise]

Rates for any excess hours are written into my contract (not that I've had to do any)

[ruth11]

You should be deciding when to do your work, not them. Covering for people and things like shifts sounds like permie work to me...

That's what I was thinking too. It's not something I want to introduce into this contract really cos right now I really am in control of when and how I work and I want it to stay that way.

But then I don't particularly want to sound unhelpful either!

Is there any premium to think about when going from an 8 hour day to a 12 hour day? Or do I just have to absorb that in the current day rate?

Just want to add that I've only been asked to do it as a one-off.

[TheFaQQer]

My current project asked me if I would work weekends. I asked what rate they were paying and was told "normal rate", so I politely declined.

There is another thread somewhere discussing what people charge for weekends - some don't charge extra and some do.

My rule is that it's double time on a weekend as a minimum. Depends how desperate they are - might go up to triple time!

[dgunner]

That's what I was thinking too. It's not something I want to introduce into this contract really cos right now I really am in control of when and how I work and I want it to stay that way.

But then I don't particularly want to sound unhelpful either!

Is there any premium to think about when going from an 8 hour day to a 12 hour day? Or do I just have to absorb that in the current day rate?

Sounds like 4 hours overtime to me.

Think of a plumber. You hire him/her for an 8 hour day and then ask them if they can work 12 hours. Do you think they will just absorb the 4 extra hours?

[ChimpMaster]

Ruth

If it's a one off then you can offer to do it this time so long as you get 2 days paid leave for working the 12 hour shift. It's a simple trade off that keeps them happy and gives you a couple of days paid holiday

And then tell them that if it is required again, you will be charging 2x rate, per hour.