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    #11
    Originally posted by Ketto View Post

    Yeah I was more meaning where there is intense time pressure - which there nearly always is in a Death March. Project i jumped from they had committed to building a full decision in principal process in sprint 1, a full mortgage application process in sprint 2, an agent portal in sprint 3. No process or requirements agreed for any of it, or agreement on the integrations to be used. You can probably guess how well it went.
    Didn't anyone tell them, you plan each sprint as you go?

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      #12
      Originally posted by TheDude View Post
      I would suggest you offer Winston Wolf services to them.
      Had to google that, is it a reference to Pulp Fiction? Somehow I never saw that movie, and I should. Also watched Fight Club for the first time recently - there are some classics I missed!

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        #13
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN12-hJI7ws

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          #14
          Senior management out did themselves on Thursday a simple request for requierments turned into a he said/she said argument. With them ultimately going back on an agreed strategy of lift and shift where possible and putting one of the work streams back 4 months. I look forward to the Indian consultancy issuing their first financial penalty for us missing the deadlines.

          The CV is dusted off, the war chest is full and I dont have the patience to deal with half wits.
          Make Mercia Great Again!

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            #15
            Sounds like a plan. Contracting may not be as lucrative as it was back in the day, but having the means to not put up with crap like this is still priceless in my view.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Ketto View Post
              Sounds like a plan. Contracting may not be as lucrative as it was back in the day, but having the means to not put up with crap like this is still priceless in my view.
              Abso-f'ing-lutely. Let them fail with their offshore half-wits and maybe they will learn a valuable lesson.

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                #17
                The latest: The Indian devs have decided to re-invent the wheel and implement stuff they should not even touch that AWS gives them for free. I told them bad idea, just get on with your application logic and they were blah blah blah blah blah... Meanwhile PM is still trying to iron out the spec for some pretty simple stuff that should have been agreed a couple of months ago.

                Its all quite amusing when you know you are leaving soon!

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                  #18
                  Depends where you sit in the project I guess. Been on a couple of these but being on the Service Ops side they turned out to be a bit of an easy gig up to the point it was forced in to live without being properly ready and I had to do some work. If you are on the hook for delivery or working closely with the Indian teams then yeah, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that. For me they were possibly the least rewarding gigs I've done but with the right mentality and out of the stress zone they can be OK.
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                    #19
                    Brings back memories of working on projects where you turn up on day one then leave several months later and the project hasn't actually advanced at all that you can tell. Or my last but one contract where they started getting rid of Test Contractors despite the fact it was several years late and most of them had only been there for a fraction of that time.

                    Probably a large contributor to why the contract/job marker is so bad at the moment. I suspect project sponsors have got sick of throwing money at projects that never seem to deliver anything and are trying outsourcing.

                    Which is another conversation.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post
                      Probably a large contributor to why the contract/job marker is so bad at the moment. I suspect project sponsors have got sick of throwing money at projects that never seem to deliver anything and are trying outsourcing.
                      They'll be sick of throwing money at outsourcing to a bunch of muppets soon enough!

                      I work over several projects at the moment. The other project was done by a mostly UK team, mix of contractors and permies, and has more experienced members of the business involved. They got me to do a piece of their design - the requirements were given to me in plenty of time, I got enough time to complete my design and refine it with the devs and testers until we were all happy with it, they have plenty of time to do their work - its all going well basically. That is money well spent.

                      The cheapo offshore team is cheap, but still a waste of money. Will be a waste of money in lost business too.

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