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SC and spent convictions?
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ladymuck
No there is nothing in my contract (it's a Fixed term till end of this year) that says anything about convictions or even change in circumstances.
Obviously, if I was going to get an actual sentencing for Breach of Peace in Scotland then that changes things... which is unlikely!
SueEllen when you declare convictions, spent or not, do they ask more questions about it and how would you respond to it?Comment
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When I did SC Clearance for Bank of England (2008), the security guy was available for questions.
He told me it's all about honesty and the only things they cared about was bank fraud and terrorism.
I had declared a little issue with oregano (9 years old) and there was no issue whatsoever.
The security guy wasn't there one day so I aked my manager whether I should mention the souvinir brass knuckles from Thailand that were confiscated leaving Frankfurt Airport in 2004 (the cop who discovered them put one on his hand and repeatedly punched his other repeating "Kool, mann, kool" - I was told the file would be immidiately closed by the prosecuter). "You don't want to tell them about that" was her response. So 100% honesty wasn't really so important.
Declared oregano infraction, undeclared brass knuckles. SC Clearance no problem.Comment
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Originally posted by herman_g View PostWhen I did SC Clearance for Bank of England (2008), the security guy was available for questions.
He told me it's all about honesty and the only things they cared about was bank fraud and terrorism.
I had declared a little issue with oregano (9 years old) and there was no issue whatsoever.
The security guy wasn't there one day so I aked my manager whether I should mention the souvinir brass knuckles from Thailand that were confiscated leaving Frankfurt Airport in 2004 (the cop who discovered them put one on his hand and repeatedly punched his other repeating "Kool, mann, kool" - I was told the file would be immidiately closed by the prosecuter). "You don't want to tell them about that" was her response. So 100% honesty wasn't really so important.
Declared oregano infraction, undeclared brass knuckles. SC Clearance no problem.
OK...
But in what universe do you live in where you think you can board an aircraft with a dangerous weapon?Blog? What blog...?Comment
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Originally posted by herman_g View PostWhen I did SC Clearance for Bank of England (2008), the security guy was available for questions.
He told me it's all about honesty and the only things they cared about was bank fraud and terrorism.
I had declared a little issue with oregano (9 years old) and there was no issue whatsoever.
The security guy wasn't there one day so I aked my manager whether I should mention the souvinir brass knuckles from Thailand that were confiscated leaving Frankfurt Airport in 2004 (the cop who discovered them put one on his hand and repeatedly punched his other repeating "Kool, mann, kool" - I was told the file would be immidiately closed by the prosecuter). "You don't want to tell them about that" was her response. So 100% honesty wasn't really so important.
Declared oregano infraction, undeclared brass knuckles. SC Clearance no problem.
What she probably meant is you don't want to tell them about it because it makes you look really stupid and although won't affect your SC it doesn't make you look great as a person. If you can't work out what you can and take on a plane and break their security policy, what are you going to do with the clients security policy. Ignore that as well?
So yes, 100% honesty about the topics required. Not about being a bellend.Last edited by northernladuk; 31 July 2024, 15:12.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by malvolio View Post
So your advice is to tell lies, or omit to tell the truth, which is the same thing, when dealing with national security. They are not omniscient, if you don't tell them something they may not know about it (or, scary thought, they may do... the police may have closed the file but that doesn't mean there isn't one on the system).
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But in what universe do you live in where you think you can board an aircraft with a dangerous weapon?Comment
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Originally posted by herman_g View Post
Not my advice. Just highlighting the fuzziness of the whole process. Regarding boarding an aircraft: the knuckles were in my checked luggage which was routinely x-rayed by the police.
But if you think brass knuckledusters are cool, you maybe need to sit and have a think.Blog? What blog...?Comment
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Originally posted by TheDude View PostI got SC with a spent caution for criminal damage.
It's been said many times, SC is not a single thing or a badge of any kind, it is a specific risk assessment for a given role. What they consider important will vary accordingly.Blog? What blog...?Comment
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