Originally posted by jamesbrown
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Originally posted by PerfectStorm View PostPeople that have started new Outside contracts after the rules change - were you given SDSs before you started, or after?Comment
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Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post
Exactly, and taking it to court, clients don't get final ruling on SDS disputes. I thought we are business people?merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post
Exactly, and taking it to court, clients don't get final ruling on SDS disputes. I thought we are business people?Comment
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostOh dear. How are you going to "take them to court" for fulfilling their statutory duties to provide a timely SDS, implement a client-led status disagreement process and to revise their SDS, at will, prior to the first payment from the client to the Fee Payer?
Still, in practice, has a pretense of a SDS initially been given and swiped? Given typical payment terms it sounds like something that simply wouldn't happen in practice.
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Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post
That is true actually, I was leading on the assumption payment was made.
Still, in practice, has a pretense of a SDS initially been given and swiped? Given typical payment terms it sounds like something that simply wouldn't happen in practice.merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by eek View PostFor me it's incredibly easy for a bad actor (and believe me there are a lot of bad actors) to claim that a contract is outside IR35 and then reasons (contractor "behaviour"...) to switch it to inside later on....
Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I'd like to think a contractor found in the situation of SDS being swiped before first billing would just leave, take the tax hit on the month's invoice and jump. But I guess some people like getting slapped around.Comment
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Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post
Seems like a high risk play though, I've worked at FTSE companies having done far lesser transgressions against contractors with pretty bad outcomes in terms of future hiring.
Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I'd like to think a contractor found in the situation of SDS being swiped before first billing would just leave, take the tax hit on the month's invoice and jump. But I guess some people like getting slapped around.
Other factors like remote working or commute, tech, prestige come in to play as well I'd say.
But I agree. I'd stuggle to do a decent job at a client when the rugs been pulled like that.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post
Seems like a high risk play though, I've worked at FTSE companies having done far lesser transgressions against contractors with pretty bad outcomes in terms of future hiring.
Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I'd like to think a contractor found in the situation of SDS being swiped before first billing would just leave, take the tax hit on the month's invoice and jump. But I guess some people like getting slapped around.
Now I definitely wouldn't be starting without an SDS saying outside but equally I wouldn't be 100% happy until I was x months down the line.merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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