Temporary working from EU for a UK based client through umbrella company

[PCTNN]

Get a room

[philgo]

But it's not your call to make.



As I say, doesn't matter what the law is. Will the client allow it? No? Reasons? Doesn't matter it's a no. Even more so now it's legal that's said no and not HR. They won't be paying lawyers £400 a time to re-check their situation so you can go.

If you would like to have a chat about the impact of working overseas on tax and social security matters I would be happy to help. Feel free to drop me a PM. I wont comment on what the client/agent/umbrella have said, because they are perfectly within their rights to reject any model of working that they don't like/understand.

Thanks and totally agree about client having their working model preferences. All I am trying to understand is law / impacts.

[BlasterBates]

Thanks and totally agree about client having their working model preferences. All I am trying to understand is law / impacts.

From a legal perspective there is no exemption that allows you to go into any country and simply work without registering a business and paying tax and social insurance on that business from day one. Obviously no-one is going to chase you for 15 days remote work in a hotel, but it is still illegal, if you don't register a business or as self-employed in that country and you work there.

[rocktronAMP]

From a legal perspective there is no exemption that allows you to go into any country and simply work without registering a business and paying tax and social insurance on that business from day one. Obviously no-one is going to chase you for 15 days remote work in a hotel, but it is still illegal, if you don't register a business or as self-employed in that country and you work there.

I don't know though.

What are the rules for a Security White Hacker or Performance Tuning Specialist?
If they turn up in a country, where a client is and then run penetration testing from a nearby hotel under authorisation?
I guess they would charge a load of money to a UK business and therefore markup any forex and service expenses to an invoice that they present the client.

So you might be working in Brussel, Belgium for a Belgian company for a just week, but then the client invoice is paid to your UK LTD through a forex PO vehicle or something like that.

It might be different practice for a contractor in a PSC, because these are very short engagements and consultancy 7 to 15 days a piece. Where as an Agile PM working for 6 months contract then thinking of extending is going to caught as you say above through the 180 day rules.

The other businesses that I can see that works like this: website design, UX/UI design testing and media content strategy writing.