Slippery agent behaviour.

[PCTNN]

If you find the role is advertised by another agency (agency B), would it be worth getting in touch with agency B and ask them hey can you check with end client if I was submitted by agency A? They should be able to find out. Whether they would bother it's another question

Right, so I did the above: I got in touch with agency B, they asked the client which confirmed they never saw my cv submitted by A (the bastards) so:
- I sent an email to agency A withdrawing from the role and withdrawing my right of representation
- gave my right of representation to agency B
- got an interview with client yesterday

now deciding whether to do the classy thing and just leave it at that or writing a snappy email to agency A. Probably the former.

[ladymuck]

That is the "honest" scenario for Agent B.

If you aren't trusting Agent A to have submitted, how can you trust Agent B to tell you the truth.

They might be happy to try and remove you from the equation as a duplicate CV - eg they don't even ask the client if you are already in, they just submit you anyway. Client can't be bothered with a tug of war, even if A got your CV in first.

It's all ifs and buts, and some may see that as mega paranoid. That is why I would always stick with Agent A.

If I have been submitted by Agent A, and I don't want to tell Agent B, I might say I'm not interested in that client because "reasons".

Ah I see where you're coming from.

I guess it depends on many factors - how keen you are on the role, how much you trust agent A, B, etc., what your relationship is like with the agents / client, blah blah

[jmo21]

yeah you can't 100% trust agency B either but if say agency B manages to check with the client and comes back saying "agency A didn't submit you so send me your CV and we'll do it" you now can assume for sure that agency A did you dirty and you weed them out with a good reason if that's what you want to do.

That is the "honest" scenario for Agent B.

If you aren't trusting Agent A to have submitted, how can you trust Agent B to tell you the truth.

They might be happy to try and remove you from the equation as a duplicate CV - eg they don't even ask the client if you are already in, they just submit you anyway. Client can't be bothered with a tug of war, even if A got your CV in first.

It's all ifs and buts, and some may see that as mega paranoid. That is why I would always stick with Agent A.

If I have been submitted by Agent A, and I don't want to tell Agent B, I might say I'm not interested in that client because "reasons".

[SussexSeagull]

Sat on a Zoom meeting, wearing a tie waiting for the interviewer to join. I had previously been offered the role but didn't take it after they took too long to make an offer, so I was feeling confident.

About 5 mins after the start time I text my friend who works there to ask why no-one has joined.

Agency (Salt) didn't bother telling me the interview was cancelled as "I was asking for too much money".

The "too much money" amount was more than 50% over the rate I asked for.

Never heard from the agency again.

I have sometimes walked out of interviews that I know for sure I have absolutely nailed to have a brief period of excitement from the agent before they disappear off the face of the earth and wondered if it is the agent not being able to make the deal (although to be fair end clients can be as bad).

(or it's me being deluded, before anyone says!)

[ladymuck]

yeah you can't 100% trust agency B either but if say agency B manages to check with the client and comes back saying "agency A didn't submit you so send me your CV and we'll do it" you now can assume for sure that agency A did you dirty and you weed them out with a good reason if that's what you want to do.

I agree. It's not in agency B's interests to claim agency A didn't submit your CV and then offer to submit for you, if your CV has already been sent to the client. Some clients take a dim view of seeing the same CV multiple times and that would hinder rather than help your chances

[PCTNN]

Maybe, but if you don't trust the first, how can you trust the second not to **** with you?

Others may say absolutely get agent 2 to check.

The problem is trusting agents.

yeah you can't 100% trust agency B either but if say agency B manages to check with the client and comes back saying "agency A didn't submit you so send me your CV and we'll do it" you now can assume for sure that agency A did you dirty and you weed them out with a good reason if that's what you want to do.

[jmo21]

If you find the role is advertised by another agency (agency B), would it be worth getting in touch with agency B and ask them hey can you check with end client if I was submitted by agency A? They should be able to find out. Whether they would bother it's another question

Maybe, but if you don't trust the first, how can you trust the second not to **** with you?

Others may say absolutely get agent 2 to check.

The problem is trusting agents.

[PCTNN]

Did they "hold back my CV" above and beyond their submission quota so it didn't get submitted by another agent, or did the client reject it? If it is the first it would be annoying, but I'll never know.

If you find the role is advertised by another agency (agency B), would it be worth getting in touch with agency B and ask them hey can you check with end client if I was submitted by agency A? They should be able to find out. Whether they would bother it's another question

[jmo21]

If I get ghosted after they claim to have put my CV forward and another role comes up that I'm keen on, I will mention their past performance in a "why should I give you another go" manner without being rude.

I used to get annoyed by this in the past, but figure there is no point now.

If they have a role I may want, no point rocking the boat.

Did they "hold back my CV" above and beyond their submission quota so it didn't get submitted by another agent, or did the client reject it? If it is the first it would be annoying, but I'll never know.

[PCTNN]

very good advice. thanks