How do you ask for a renewal raise, if working direct?

[northernladuk]

There is a different way to look at this. They should be able to do MORE work in the SAME amount of time so the rate should be higher.

I don't disagree but the point is it is not uncommon for a reduction in next years costs to be included in supplier contracts. Prices going up because life costs more isn't a defacto standard.

[jamesbrown]

I don't disagree but the point is it is not uncommon for a reduction in next years costs to be included in supplier contracts. Prices going up because life costs more isn't a defacto standard.

Prices going up because I am telling you the new price and you can take it or leave it (unless I have reason to compromise) is a de facto standard. Just as it's a de facto standard that PC is going to get whatever he's given.

[cannon999]

I don't disagree but the point is it is not uncommon for a reduction in next years costs to be included in supplier contracts. Prices going up because life costs more isn't a defacto standard.

I have never heard of anybody getting a reduced rate as the contract went on. Honestly people only ask for higher rates..

[eek]

I have never heard of anybody getting a reduced rate as the contract went on. Honestly people only ask for higher rates..

Purchasing departments need to justify their existance.

I continually have to have conversations with them where they look at the advertised rates (say from Gcloud) and they assume that's the point I start negotiations at. They get upset when I say that those Gcloud terms are for blocks of time booked well in advance on 7 day no quibble payment terms and a right (on our side) to delay things if necessary.

And even if you match all those criteria the rate is likely to be higher - because we can..

[ladymuck]

I have never heard of anybody getting a reduced rate as the contract went on. Honestly people only ask for higher rates..

You've never worked for a retail bank!

I recall they would regularly have a spate of 10% rate cuts plus a nice furlough either at Easter or Christmas.

Egos used to maintain a list of companies who did that: http://www.egos.co.uk/contract-breakers.htm

[northernladuk]

I have never heard of anybody getting a reduced rate as the contract went on. Honestly people only ask for higher rates..

Well here you go. In black and white. And these are the mass take it or leave it ones. Not the individuals of which there will be plenty. I've had to do it on a public sector contract when the consultancy I was with through had to deliver a cost saving. The list isn't complete either. Been plenty we've discussed on here that are not in that list.

http://www.egos.co.uk/contract-breakers.htm

Maybe it's not a common thing on day rate contracting but if you are trying to move more towards fixed cost or consultancy work it becomes more popular.

EDIT : Damn. LM beat me to it.

[cannon999]

Well here you go. In black and white. And these are the mass take it or leave it ones. Not the individuals of which there will be plenty. I've had to do it on a public sector contract when the consultancy I was with through had to deliver a cost saving. The list isn't complete either. Been plenty we've discussed on here that are not in that list.

http://www.egos.co.uk/contract-breakers.htm

Maybe it's not a common thing on day rate contracting but if you are trying to move more towards fixed cost or consultancy work it becomes more popular.

EDIT : Damn. LM beat me to it.

I have never worked in public sector. Maybe that explains it

[ladymuck]

I have never worked in public sector. Maybe that explains it

Most of those on the list were private sector... I don't think all banks are publicly owned, just a couple.

[ladymuck]

EDIT : Damn. LM beat me to it.

By over an hour!

[northernladuk]

By over an hour!

Shurrup you