Hi Folks I think a few of us are in this position....
Been with the same firm for a number of years as a PSC. I insure myself, control work myself, have substitution in the contract and have no obligation either way that renewals are guaranteed or expected. Along with a number of other points I consider myself outside but the firm I am working for has thrown everyone under the IR35 bus without any individual assessments whatsoever and we must all go umbrella from April.
I've read the contract and it says the same as it did before, just now being signed by the umbrella as I would work for them going forward.
I'm minded to leave - a) been there too long and b) client doesn't really care about contract individuals and have generally acted quite poorly causing a huge risk to its contract workforce.
What are you guys doing?
I've already had the convo with the boss that I think its too risky to stay. I can't live with the stress of worrying about investigations through no fault of my own.
Also insurances - I don't need insurance if I go umbrella as they will provide it at whichever client I go to....so does insurance for investigations cover you for only the 12months it was active or can you go back and use a policy you paid for if required in future because that was covering the period that any investigation looks at?
I understand this kind of insurance is a bit like a wet paper bag....so just checking.
I'm finding this rather stressful and will make myself jobless than risk a look by HMRC for going outside to inside. I don't want to as I enjoy where I work and work I've done there, but this is a huge risk in my mind (and sadly I know this might not keep that risk away although maybe minimise it). However there seems to be noone to give advice on this!!
Others at work are saying HMRC are too busy looking at bigger fraud but I don't think that will stop them. Most seem to be staying but looking immediately for alternative work to minimise risk. Surely its more sensible to renew and look to keep the funds coming in?! We all have bills to pay.
Mucho gracias
Been with the same firm for a number of years as a PSC. I insure myself, control work myself, have substitution in the contract and have no obligation either way that renewals are guaranteed or expected. Along with a number of other points I consider myself outside but the firm I am working for has thrown everyone under the IR35 bus without any individual assessments whatsoever and we must all go umbrella from April.
I've read the contract and it says the same as it did before, just now being signed by the umbrella as I would work for them going forward.
I'm minded to leave - a) been there too long and b) client doesn't really care about contract individuals and have generally acted quite poorly causing a huge risk to its contract workforce.
What are you guys doing?
I've already had the convo with the boss that I think its too risky to stay. I can't live with the stress of worrying about investigations through no fault of my own.
Also insurances - I don't need insurance if I go umbrella as they will provide it at whichever client I go to....so does insurance for investigations cover you for only the 12months it was active or can you go back and use a policy you paid for if required in future because that was covering the period that any investigation looks at?
I understand this kind of insurance is a bit like a wet paper bag....so just checking.
I'm finding this rather stressful and will make myself jobless than risk a look by HMRC for going outside to inside. I don't want to as I enjoy where I work and work I've done there, but this is a huge risk in my mind (and sadly I know this might not keep that risk away although maybe minimise it). However there seems to be noone to give advice on this!!
Others at work are saying HMRC are too busy looking at bigger fraud but I don't think that will stop them. Most seem to be staying but looking immediately for alternative work to minimise risk. Surely its more sensible to renew and look to keep the funds coming in?! We all have bills to pay.
Mucho gracias
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