Originally posted by BrilloPad
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WFH is going to be interesting when this all calms down
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostOnly no win if you are clueless moron. There are a ton of options open to both parties so just negotiate it out. It's hardly 'no-win'.
There are so many points to discuss here but I really can't be bothered educating you on them.
The contractors saying WFH or I won't bother is hardly power. It's a choice which leads to a negotiation. In some cases it's going to be slightly inconvenient but hardly no win.
If you want to take a super simplistic view with out putting any thought in to it whatsoever then you might have a point. Beyond that your post falls apart at the seams.Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by SussexSeagull View PostYou really are tedious to the point of self parody, aren't you?'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by SussexSeagull View PostHe just became the first person on my ignore list.Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostNo need for the hate. I think I made a perfectly valid point that just blaming 'the management' really doesn't help any discussion going forward. Might be in my rather unique posting style I admit but I don't think there is any need to get so upset by it. I'll delete it if you wish.
You are on ignore anyway...Comment
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostAre you feeling okay? Where is the NLUK we know and love?
You are on ignore anyway...Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by psychocandy View PostHes chilled out. I got a PM from him telling me how much he respects me....See You Next TuesdayComment
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"It Depends"
Originally posted by jmo21 View PostThe answer should be "it depends".
WFH has many benefits. More time at home/less commuting/cost. It can open up job opportunities/potential employees than if the job required you to be "in office". It can also reduce sick days for a company.
But not everyone wants to WFH full time.
Some people like being in the office and being able to build relationships in person.
Some people living by themselves will find WFH lonely, or plain boring.
A couple living together in a 1 bed flat might not have enough room for both to work comfortably at home.
For younger people starting their career, they may find it a lot easier to get help/mentorship in person.
Younger folk are more and more used to the internet and virtual communication though, so some of these things will become less important
Some face to face is very beneficial, but does not have to be very often. Back in the 1980s I worked on a joint UK-US team. Anyone joining the team spent 2 weeks in the other office to get to know the people there, after which remote working, which at that time was mostly telephone calls and email, was very successful. Many of the team made an atlantic trip about once a year. This experience indicates to me that initial and then infrequent face to face is required for WFH, otherwise it all comes down to "it depends" on home environment (family, space), the type of work, the company culture, etc. Personally (software development) I don't miss the disturbance of office life at all - I am so much more productive where I can "schedule" interruptions!Comment
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Originally posted by measterbrook View PostThe "it depends" is the key.
Some face to face is very beneficial, but does not have to be very often. Back in the 1980s I worked on a joint UK-US team. Anyone joining the team spent 2 weeks in the other office to get to know the people there, after which remote working, which at that time was mostly telephone calls and email, was very successful. Many of the team made an atlantic trip about once a year. This experience indicates to me that initial and then infrequent face to face is required for WFH, otherwise it all comes down to "it depends" on home environment (family, space), the type of work, the company culture, etc. Personally (software development) I don't miss the disturbance of office life at all - I am so much more productive where I can "schedule" interruptions!
A previous client went heavy flexible working 4 years ago, 60% office time for permies and contractors, hot desking, selling off buildings they owned, compressed hours etc. Suited me, but it soon became apparent that it was only luck whether there would be any more than a couple of immediate colleagues in the office the days I went in, pretty much defeating the point of going in at all. And then for large or team-wide meetings, it would always be on the phone as there would be folk at home. Meeting rooms were at a premium, and had to be booked in advance, so most large meetings ended up just being at your desk dialled in.Comment
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