WFH/Lockdown/Future of office work

[simes]

The Agileeesta's all say that co-location is the only way to work.

While that is the ideal and works for small companies, it just doesn't fly for big companies with out-sourced workers or global teams.

And so if the entire world now decides to work from home, this in turn spells the death knell for agile, perhaps waterfall will make a recovery and in turn stop Ghostie from telling us every five minutes that PMs are a redundant thing of the dinosaur past.

[LondonManc]

He wants to make it a legal right even though he then says



Legal right when only 25% are doing it during a pandemic. Right... that's gonna go well.

As soon as someone mentions legal rights it gets my back straight up. Is that just me?

20 Lambert & Butlers and two lottery tickets for tomorrow night please. Oh, what, you don't have a lottery machine at home?

[Paralytic]

And so if the entire world now decides to work from home, this in turn spells the death knell for agile, perhaps waterfall will make a recovery and in turn stop Ghostie from telling us every five minutes that PMs are a redundant thing of the dinosaur past.

I can't see how working from home will impact the use of agile, but anything that stops GoT posting anything is good in my books

[Paralytic]

Could a side-effect of more people working from home be driving down London day rates for contractors, which are typically higher than the rest of the country?

If WFH becomes the new norm for a higher number of contracts, it will allow those that would otherwise not commute to London to apply. If these people are typically on lower day rates, then the client will naturally lean towards these suppliers.

[ladymuck]

Could a side-effect of more people working from home be driving down London day rates for contractors, which are typically higher than the rest of the country?

If WFH becomes the new norm for a higher number of contracts, it will allow those that would otherwise not commute to London to apply. If these people are typically on lower day rates, then the client will naturally lean towards these suppliers.

That's a reasonable point to make. I would also wonder if the client would then pay expenses for the inevitable times you need to be on site? At the moment part of the fee inflation is to cover travel and accommodation.

[BR14]

That's a reasonable point to make. I would also wonder if the client would then pay expenses for the inevitable times you need to be on site? At the moment part of the fee inflation is to cover travel and accommodation.

that's the model i've been working to for 5 years now.
100% WFH after a week onboarding, and client pays T&A for any site visits

[LondonManc]

Could a side-effect of more people working from home be driving down London day rates for contractors, which are typically higher than the rest of the country?

If WFH becomes the new norm for a higher number of contracts, it will allow those that would otherwise not commute to London to apply. If these people are typically on lower day rates, then the client will naturally lean towards these suppliers.

These people aren't on lower day rates if they're going for a London contract.

A Londoner's £500 a day has to cover their inflated mortgage/rent, a northerner's £500 a day for the same gig would have to cover travel and accommodation. You would probably therefore have more chance of recruiting a northerner on a remote gig based in London.

[SussexSeagull]

He wants to make it a legal right even though he then says



Legal right when only 25% are doing it during a pandemic. Right... that's gonna go well.

As soon as someone mentions legal rights it gets my back straight up. Is that just me?

I stop short of saying it should be a legal right but I think it could be incentivised. It has long seemed dated that everyone gets dragged into the office at 0900 battling with other commuters (Cities) and schools (Towns).

[SussexSeagull]

That's a reasonable point to make. I would also wonder if the client would then pay expenses for the inevitable times you need to be on site? At the moment part of the fee inflation is to cover travel and accommodation.

I have worked under those terms as well. Works well and when you do have to go into the office it tends to be for a meeting so more often than not you avoid rush hour,

[GhostofTarbera]

These people aren't on lower day rates if they're going for a London contract.

A Londoner's £500 a day has to cover their inflated mortgage/rent, a northerner's £500 a day for the same gig would have to cover travel and accommodation. You would probably therefore have more chance of recruiting a northerner on a remote gig based in London.

This exactly

Can’t wait to escape London for somewhere sunny after lockdown (why the hell would you live in UK if working from home)


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