Barclays forcing all contractors to go PAYE by February 2020

[Paralytic]

Discussions so far at client Co (Bank) - a separate company is being set up by agency as MSP with sow type contracts including nominal financial penalty for not delivering on milestones. This hasn't been communicated to contractors yet and is just being filtered down from those in the know.

That'll be RBS as the client and Lorien setting up the MSP then

https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2659785

https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2660027

I've heard the same.

[simes]

My take on the new rules is:-

It didn't matter how many companies you put in front of the end client; it was still the end client who had to sign off on the IR35 assessment.

Quite.

Which means if clients are thinking this is a way through / around / over the reform, then it just goes to show how little people understand the laws, or how to abide by them.

It'll soon be a case of the blind leading the blind leading the contractors. Blinds 1 and 2 being the HMRC and 'Client' respectively.

[ladymuck]

Totally. But if its a straight body shop rather than soaking in to their service offering then nope.
If they extend that service offering to 'ad hoc' work done then nope as well.

Devil will be in the details but I've a feeling in a majority of cases it will fall woefully short.

Interesting stuff and hopefully someone being suckled in to this will tell us warts n all.

It'll be a body shop scenario. The project being supported, rather than any specific app or such, is the perpetual never ending technology refresh that I've previously whined about. If I get a call to go back, I'll see how much info I can get (that was the second half of the rumour I heard....)

[GhostofTarbera]

Thank god We have paid IPSE since 1999 to stop all this for us


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[Antthe]

OK busted!

That'll be RBS as the client and Lorien setting up the MSP then

https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2659785

https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2660027

I've heard the same.

Not the smartest attempt at keeping my cards close to my chest to be fair [emoji23]

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[ciaozio]

I am at Barclays, working on, what they say, a critical project. They're still letting me go - there's no in or out IR35. All contractors are going.

[ladymuck]

I am at Barclays, working on, what they say, a critical project. They're still letting me go - there's no in or out IR35. All contractors are going.

Give it a few months and they'll hire you back again

[GhostofTarbera]

Give it a few months and they'll hire you back again

Not this time

Will go to an expensive MSC or outsource company

Happy to be wrong on this


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[ciaozio]

Give it a few months and they'll hire you back again

I am not really sure about it. My managers are trying everything, but upper upper management oppose any new contract. Managers know how bad it is, HR departments don't.

[TheInvoicer]

My managers are trying everything.....

Oops you want to reword that



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