Working without a contract

[WTFH]

It would be nice if the OP came back and actually gave us some more info. Based on the other thread they started a couple of weeks ago, I'm wondering if they have an accountant and an Ltd set up already or are hoping to do it all cash in hand.

[oilboil]

Your accountant will not be happy.

I don't particularly give a "fig" whether my accountant is happy or not, I pay them to give advice (which I can decide to take or not take) and then to correctly record the financial transactions the company undertakes. Whether they are happy with what the company does or how it does it is frankly irrelevant

[malvolio]

I don't particularly give a "fig" whether my accountant is happy or not, I pay them to give advice (which I can decide to take or not take) and then to correctly record the financial transactions the company undertakes. Whether they are happy with what the company does or how it does it is frankly irrelevant

Unless of course your company's activities are fraudulent, misrepresent the actuality or break some other accounting practice rules in which case your accountant would be obliged to point it out both to you and the authorities.

HTH. BIDI...

[WTFH]

I don't particularly give a "fig" whether my accountant is happy or not, I pay them to give advice (which I can decide to take or not take) and then to correctly record the financial transactions the company undertakes. Whether they are happy with what the company does or how it does it is frankly irrelevant

You pay them to give you advice. If their advice is "that's not a clever thing to do, you are opening yourself up to risks that I think you should not open yourself up to", that comment could be summarised as "your accountant might not be happy"

[radish2008]

Are there any IR35 implications if you work without a contract?

I've worked without a contract before after having an original contract in place. So extensions were agreed and the guy was slow to get a contract in place etc. etc. At some point contracts were all signed to cover the whole period.

I would never start work without a contract. As for IR35, if you start working without a contract I would imagine that would be the least of your worries. Although IR35, as you will hear many, many , many times is all about actual working practices so the contract is not that important.

[oilboil]

Unless of course your company's activities are fraudulent, misrepresent the actuality or break some other accounting practice rules in which case your accountant would be obliged to point it out both to you and the authorities.

HTH. BIDI...

All great points - thanks!

I still stand by my statement that I don't care if my accountant is happy, I'd prefer it if they were but so long as what the company does is legal the accountant's state of mind is inconsequential

[WTFH]

All great points - thanks!

I still stand by my statement that I don't care if my accountant is happy, I'd prefer it if they were but so long as what the company does is legal the accountant's state of mind is inconsequential

And I stand by mine...

You pay them to give you advice. If their advice is "that's not a clever thing to do, you are opening yourself up to risks that I think you should not open yourself up to", that comment could be summarised as "your accountant might not be happy"

Your state of mind is inconsequential if what you are doing is fraudulent and the accountant has clearly warned you about it.