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How do you handle disgruntled permanent staff and management

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    Originally posted by blackeye View Post
    Years a go I was offered a role in the security services, but turned it down after looking more closely into the DV process. It takes up to 6 months and they interview your referees for hours, asking them if they know what sort of porn you like and whether you've cheated on your wife etc.
    Considering the guy who was found in a bag was cleared linkythey would have seen everything.
    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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      Originally posted by blackeye View Post
      Years a go I was offered a role in the security services, but turned it down after looking more closely into the DV process. It takes up to 6 months and they interview your referees for hours, asking them if they know what sort of porn you like and whether you've cheated on your wife etc.
      I'd be more concerned about my referee knowing what porn I liked than anything else to be fair...
      The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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        Been offered the local gig! They want me to start a week on Monday. I'm going to stick my notice in but it's 28 days. What is the repercussion if I don't work my notice period?

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          You'll not get paid whatever they owe you to cover the loss of income from you leaving early. It's wrong and you might get it but the agent will be in a perfect position to sue you for losses incurred by you breaching contract.

          Best thing is to negotiate and exit with the client that the agent can't really argue... But they probably will anyway because they'll still see it as breach.
          'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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            Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
            Been offered the local gig! They want me to start a week on Monday. I'm going to stick my notice in but it's 28 days. What is the repercussion if I don't work my notice period?
            I can come over and give you a leg injury which means you can't drive or travel 200 miles.
            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
              You'll not get paid whatever they owe you to cover the loss of income from you leaving early. It's wrong and you might get it but the agent will be in a perfect position to sue you for losses incurred by you breaching contract.

              Best thing is to negotiate and exit with the client that the agent can't really argue... But they probably will anyway because they'll still see it as breach.
              So what you're saying is say nothing until the next invoice is paid?

              I'm wondering if that's why they seem to be goading me. Get me to walk. If they terminate the agreement they still have to pay me whats owed.

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                Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
                So what you're saying is say nothing until the next invoice is paid?
                Yeah but what's the payment terms? Are you weekly monthly? They will always have some of your money.

                I'm wondering if that's why they seem to be goading me. Get me to walk. If they terminate the agreement they still have to pay me whats owed.
                If that is the situation then they should be happy to negotiate a quick exit. Remember there are two parties here, the client who you are doing the work for and the agent who you are contracted to. I haven't read the full thread so you'll have to make the call. They can terminate you on the spot if they want. They just withdraw the work and ask you not to come in. The contract continues but you don't do any work so don't take anymore payment. From what I gather they'd most likely go down the poor performance route which is another clause in your contract.

                It's all very messy so the best way is negotiation by far.
                'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                  Invoice and payment are weekly with an invoice raised every Friday and payment the Friday after.

                  I'd love for them to terminate the contract. I'd be over the moon. He quite clearly doesn't like me, I don't know what he's waiting for

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                    Whats to stop you telling them you're unavailable due to illness? In the meantime keep face to ensure your timesheet are signed and the agent pays you, while starting at the new place.

                    You're not a perm, so won't need to provide sick notes to prove anything. If this gig wasn't on your CV the vetting agency won't have any reason to contact them.

                    This would be very unprofessional and perhaps unethical, so I would not recommend it off course.

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                      Originally posted by blackeye View Post
                      Whats to stop you telling them you're unavailable due to illness? In the meantime keep face to ensure your timesheet are signed and the agent pays you, while starting at the new place.

                      You're not a perm, so won't need to provide sick notes to prove anything. If this gig wasn't on your CV the vetting agency won't have any reason to contact them.

                      This would be very unprofessional and perhaps unethical, so I would not recommend it off course.
                      I've never been in this predicament. I've either worked until the end of a contract or received an extension and worked until the end of the project. I've never left anywhere on bad terms. I've certainly worked with people I'd choose not to work with again but nowhere near this level of animosity, especially from higher ups.

                      I genuinely get the feeling I'm being goaded into walking. I don't know what else they get from it other than they'd probably refuse to pay me for the week I've just worked. If they terminate me they do have a clause to get rid with no notice on the grounds of incompetence but they still need to pay me the week that I've done. If they decide to end it without the grounds they owe me seven days in my contract.

                      I'm half tempted to just walk in tomorrow, get the manager and just make it clear I think it's obvious he has an issue with me, if he wants to let me go we can part ways now. I'm sick of the waiting and the uncertainty

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