Got the Chop, now what ?

[m0n1k3r]

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[m0n1k3r]

I'm just a gigolo... 😎

Everywhere I go.

[oliverson]

Every.

It happens and it is unpleasant. But I would not waste time and effort in trying to pursue the agency or client because they will undoubtedly fight back and you'll discover that there are plenty of clauses in your contract that gives them a get-out in having to pay you.

You will sink time and energy into an activity ( not to mention causing yourself undue stress ) into something that is highly unlikely to be successful. There are not many examples of when a client or agent has been taken to court and the contractor won - and there's a reason for that.

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I have to disagree with this and the other responses along a similar line. I was canned in my first ever contract - last contractor in and picked up a poisoned chalice. I'd done nothing wrong and felt it was a question of putting things right so I took the agency to court. I even commissioned a barrister. Eventually they paid up before it went to court. It wasn't about the money. Ultimately if you accept that kind of treatment what you are saying is that they were right to can you. It was about justice for me and I got it.

[jmo21]

I have to disagree with this and the other responses along a similar line. I was canned in my first ever contract - last contractor in and picked up a poisoned chalice. I'd done nothing wrong and felt it was a question of putting things right so I took the agency to court. I even commissioned a barrister. Eventually they paid up before it went to court. It wasn't about the money. Ultimately if you accept that kind of treatment what you are saying is that they were right to can you. It was about justice for me and I got it.

What specifically did you take them to court for? Breach of contract, slander over their reasons for terminating?

Would love to hear some specifics.

[oliverson]

What specifically did you take them to court for? Breach of contract, slander over their reasons for terminating?

Would love to hear some specifics.

It was back in early 2004 so I can't remember the specifics but it was about not paying the notice period. It did take a while to settle and I went from that role to a 2.5 year beauty on my doorstep paying £10 an hour more. Win win.

[GillsMan]

Just move on! Find your next gig!

Disappointment when doing business?? Sorry m8, check if you are cut out to be a businessman first please. Once you do that reality check, you will never EVER feel disappointed again!

What an earth are you drivelling about? Businessmen (and women) can't feel disappointed? Eh? I've seen some stupid on these forums from time to time, but that's up there with the best of them. I run a proper business now (FT perm employees, office, etc) and I still get disappointed on occasion. Disappointed that we didn't win a pitch. Disappointed that our RFP didn't get a response. Disappointed if a prospect pulls out at the last minute. It happens; you want your business to be as successful as possible, so of course it's disappointing when things don't come off as you hoped/tried.

I think it might be you that needs a reality check.

[psychocandy]

OP - Everyones right. Doesnt matter if the contract was 6 months.
tulip happens. Might not have been the real reason either - client just might have had a budget rethink or something.

If it was me. I'd be wassed off - people who say they aren't are lying. Will you get paid for notice period?

Hmm. As others have said, you didnt work so possibly not. If it was me, I'd certainly be chucking in an invoice for it. Who knows. They might pay it and its no skin off your nose. Take them to small claims court, little effort or cost TBH.

BTW -are you a member of IPSE? Might be able to claim up to £1000 at least off them.

[northernladuk]

If it was me. I'd be wassed off - people who say they aren't are lying. Will you get paid for notice period?

Hmm. As others have said, you didnt work so possibly not. If it was me, I'd certainly be chucking in an invoice for it. Who knows. They might pay it and its no skin off your nose. Take them to small claims court, little effort or cost TBH.

BTW -are you a member of IPSE? Might be able to claim up to £1000 at least off them.

This is a different care though. He was dismissed with a reason. Notice just doesn't apply here. If they canned him for no reason and it's a bit grey you could try it but when you've been walked with good reason you are more likely wasting your time and everyone else.

For the reasons mentioned above you cannot claim against IPSE. That is for business interruption when the agent doesn't honour the terms of the contract. In this case they did. They walked him. IPSE are going to pay out to every contractor that gets canned in the right way? I don't think so.

[LondonManc]

This is a different care though. He was dismissed with a reason. Notice just doesn't apply here. If they canned him for no reason and it's a bit grey you could try it but when you've been walked with good reason you are more likely wasting your time and everyone else.

For the reasons mentioned above you cannot claim against IPSE. That is for business interruption when the agent doesn't honour the terms of the contract. In this case they did. They walked him. IPSE are going to pay out to every contractor that gets canned in the right way? I don't think so.

Correct but I think there needs an element of clarification here.

Was the OP walked simply because he wasn't a cultural fit? Is it safer to walk away because the real reasons may hurt/be more brutal? Are the ClientCo choosing to let him go because other people couldn't get on with OP (hint, permie wins 99/100 times on this one).

[psychocandy]

This is a different care though. He was dismissed with a reason. Notice just doesn't apply here. If they canned him for no reason and it's a bit grey you could try it but when you've been walked with good reason you are more likely wasting your time and everyone else.

For the reasons mentioned above you cannot claim against IPSE. That is for business interruption when the agent doesn't honour the terms of the contract. In this case they did. They walked him. IPSE are going to pay out to every contractor that gets canned in the right way? I don't think so.

True but as we've discussed many many times there are tons of instances where contractors get walked. A lot of the time its just a made up reason because client wants rid.

Who knows in this case? Might be genuine, might be a "budget issue". OP is never going to know.

I can see your point about IPSE though. They probably dont want to pay out for people who get the boot for being canned. BUT then its potentially unfair on those who look like they got the boot but were in fact just binned by the client because it was easier this way.