State of the Market

[BritishLad88]

Took a perm job last week. I feel grubby, but needs must. It's all well and good standing my ground and holding out for an outside role but if a market that's otherwise booming has died on it's arse and I have a mortgage to pay, I'm out of options.

i agree, unless you have a massive war chest built up & is willing to burn that chest to pay mortgage doing nothing whilst bench, i'd take something at least to get income if income is high on your priority list

[ladymuck]

Took a perm job last week. I feel grubby, but needs must. It's all well and good standing my ground and holding out for an outside role but if a market that's otherwise booming has died on it's arse and I have a mortgage to pay, I'm out of options.

Well done on getting one! It's a good way to ride out the next year or more, get some free training in, and buy time while you decide what you want to do.

Just don't go native!

[DevUK]

Well done on getting one! It's a good way to ride out the next year or more, get some free training in, and buy time while you decide what you want to do.

Just don't go native!

Thanks! As far as perm jobs go it seems good.

Can I ask, sorry, what is native? As in sticking with perm and never returning?

[silverlight1]

Many folks seem to be going perm - this does reinforce the mantra that many were permitractors anyway.

The market will undergo a major re-alignment.

My only concern is that this alignment is not used by clients to undergo major offshoring efforts - that way everyone loses

[LetterBox]

Many folks seem to be going perm - this does reinforce the mantra that many were permitractors anyway.

Government would like you to think so, but I'd suggest the vast majority on this site who have gone perm have done so just to protect the warchest / pay the bills.

[BigDataPro]

Thanks! As far as perm jobs go it seems good.

Can I ask, sorry, what is native? As in sticking with perm and never returning?

(of a person living away from their own country or region) abandon one's own culture, customs, or way of life and adopt those of the country or region one is living in.

It means, avoid learning/adopting permie mindset

[ladymuck]

Thanks! As far as perm jobs go it seems good.

Can I ask, sorry, what is native? As in sticking with perm and never returning?

Losing yourself in the permie ways and essentially losing the contractor mindset.

go native - Wiktionary

[wattaj]

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[DevUK]

Ah OK, I understand 'native' now.

In response to contractors going perm being a sign that they were always permitractors anyway - this is well wide of the mark.

I've not traded as a 'permitractor' would at all. I've not just had full-time contracts, and on the full-time contracts I have taken I've been very careful in ensuring I'm engaging as a business. It's simply a case of this - it's all well and good standing your ground, as many business owners are, and rejecting inside and demanding clients see the light in protest. But for anybody who enjoys a nice home, decent car and a comfortable lifestyle there's a deadline.

I'm not willing to quickly destroy my warchest and make other sacrifices based on the faith I've lost in an industry that is quite clearly on it's arse.

I hope for everyone's sake clients start thinking a bit more sensibly, but (in keeping with the topic of this thread) the state of the market is not looking fantastic based on how the bigger players are reacting. Stakes are too high for me to bet on them sorting themselves out before I struggle to pay my mortgage.

[ladymuck]

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That looks too much like real work