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How long can the pimp play this game with my rate?

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    #11
    It may also be that your "robust sum" is more "robust" than your ability (in the client or agent's eyes). It might not be unheard of, but perhaps not for this particular role at this particular client at this particular time
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      #12
      What is lowest sum you are willing to do the role for?

      You risk losing this one by playing hardball. I'm less bullish to others on the forum, I'd rather have a contract even if it is £10-30 less than I wanted rather than looking for another role, especially if I really want the role.

      I'd rather make the difference up by spending less time on the bench.

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        #13
        Originally posted by VillageContractor View Post
        What is lowest sum you are willing to do the role for?

        You risk losing this one by playing hardball.
        I'm less bullish to others on the forum, I'd rather have a contract even if it is £10-30 less than I wanted rather than looking for another role, especially if I really want the role.

        I'd rather make the difference up by spending less time on the bench.
        I'd tend to agree with you although why the client/agent can't be more transparent and just say, you're our preferred candidate and you're asking too much for what you're offering or the role is paying is completely beyond me.

        For me the longer this kind of thing goes on in contract negotiations the less likely I am to accept the role.

        In 8 years of contracting all of my best roles have been ones where I've interviewed and the client has got back to me within a matter of hours saying they want to go ahead.
        Last edited by ShandyDrinker; 17 May 2016, 09:06.

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          #14
          Quick question...
          Have you gone back to the agent with a lower rate than your original, or have you just said nothing?
          …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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            #15
            Got any contact with hiring manager, drop a line saying thanks for the opportunity, looking forward to joining but was a bit surprised the agent has changed the offered rate after interview so just ironing the details out.
            That should sort it one way or another !

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              #16
              Originally posted by lukemg View Post
              Got any contact with hiring manager, drop a line saying thanks for the opportunity, looking forward to joining but was a bit surprised the agent has changed the offered rate after interview so just ironing the details out.
              That should sort it one way or another !
              Hmm. I think that's a bit of a gamble. I know on this gig and one previously contractors have tried to speak to the client and they don't like it. It's not for them to discuss rates with contractors or get involved in disputes.

              I'm open to opinions of others here though. I'd say it's not a good idea but then I wouldn't have put myself in the position of the OP either so interested on others thoughts.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #17
                Never undercut yourself. Just ask them what do they offer and that you can negotiate/comment after you know.
                Otherwise just tell the pimp to sod off.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by garnet View Post
                  Never undercut yourself. Just ask them what do they offer and that you can negotiate/comment after you know.
                  Otherwise just tell the pimp to sod off.
                  To an extent, this.

                  See what the difference is between what they're wanting to pay and what you are after.
                  If it's £50 difference, agree to shake hands on £25 difference and get billing.
                  The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                    #19
                    If you want a long read on similar shenanigans

                    Age-old issue of Agents trying to bump their margin, which - of course - is what we all do when we aim for best rate too. That said, Agents can often be sneaky and we are all lovely

                    As others have said, set your price and compare to your attitude to risk (on possibly losing gig)
                    latest-and-greatest solution (TM) kevpuk 2013

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by kevpuk View Post
                      If you want a long read on similar shenanigans

                      Age-old issue of Agents trying to bump their margin, which - of course - is what we all do when we aim for best rate too. That said, Agents can often be sneaky and we are all lovely

                      As others have said, set your price and compare to your attitude to risk (on possibly losing gig)
                      Glad that one worked out for you.

                      I think I'd start by saying to the agent, that's fine, I'll phone/email the hiring manager and let them know that I am unable to come down to the rate they are asking, and thank them for the opportunity regardless.

                      That's probably enough to stick a rocket up the agents backside and settle it one way or another.

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