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    Originally posted by billybiro View Post
    Care to post your exact movements and whereabouts every day for the last 3 months here on the board then?
    +1.

    A client is an unknown party to my personal affairs and I have no guarantee my information will be treated properly or where. In finance in particular how can I be sure you haven't scanned my documents in and they are not sitting on a server in Hungary. I am sure asking the hiring manager to reciprocate would not be taken favourably. Hell when I started my career and got privileged access to Netware did I read stuff I shouldn't have? Of course I did untill I grew up. I am sure I am not alone in this,

    I hate this nonsense, on holiday in Thailand for 2 weeks could either be a civilised time on the beach with your family or whoring it up on Soi Cowboy with a bag of amphetamines and Garry Gliiter. When doing the latter just pay cash.

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      Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
      whoring it up on Soi Cowboy with a bag of amphetamines and Garry Gliiter. When doing the latter just pay cash.
      Sounds like the voice of experience, although only valid if it is Yabba.

      As we discussed earlier, though, some sectors, for example UK based IB, just will not proceed, with engagement, without these checks.

      Hence, why I have been asking Bolshie about his recent IB engagement experience.
      He seems a little reticent about it

      The other choice is to go and work for a poorer paying industry.
      The Chunt of Chunts.

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        Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
        The other choice is to go and work for a poorer paying industry.
        Which is always an option. With 24 years of skin my opinion is it is not always about the money.

        That said, there is absolutley no ******* way I would pass the scrutiny of an IB these days, "fired by client and stayed in country for a futher 10 month rum bender" is generally something they are adverse to.

        Maybe thats the case here.

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          fired by client and stayed in country for a futher 10 month rum bender
          Sounds like a very valuable life lesson to me
          The Chunt of Chunts.

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            Originally posted by billybiro View Post
            Care to post your exact movements and whereabouts every day for the last 3 months here on the board then?
            No problem.

            I spent 10 weeks in General, and the rest in Business/Contracts.

            Including weekends.

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              Originally posted by billybiro View Post
              Care to post your exact movements and whereabouts every day for the last 3 months here on the board then?
              No because there is nothing in it for me. If there was £700 quid a day gig and that they follow the Data Protection act I'd be happy to.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                No because there is nothing in it for me. If there was £700 quid a day gig and that they follow the Data Protection act I'd be happy to.
                And that is your prerogative. The DPA only covers a small % of the total risk, even when implemented correctly.

                Here are just a few examples where client data has "escaped".

                Barclays customer data 'stolen and sold', newspaper says BBC - Feb 9, 2014
                Morgan Stanley: An employee stole partial client data - CNBC Jan 5, 2015
                Insider data theft costs Bank of America $10 million -Computerworld ' May 25, 2011
                Standard Chartered Client Data - WSJ - Dec 5, 2013

                I would not assume, until proven otherwise, that contractor data is that much safer.
                Last edited by clearedforlanding; 13 December 2015, 12:08.

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                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  No because there is nothing in it for me. If there was £700 quid a day gig and that they follow the Data Protection act I'd be happy to.
                  Good point about the Data Protection Act. Would want to know exactly what happens to my data.

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                    Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
                    And that is your prerogative. The DPA only covers a small % of the total risk, even when implemented correctly.

                    Here are just a few examples where client data has "escaped".

                    Barclays customer data 'stolen and sold', newspaper says BBC - Feb 9, 2014
                    Morgan Stanley: An employee stole partial client data - CNBC Jan 5, 2015
                    Insider data theft costs Bank of America $10 million -Computerworld ' May 25, 2011
                    Standard Chartered Client Data - WSJ - Dec 5, 2013

                    I would not assume, until proven otherwise, that contractor data is that much safer.
                    Man you talk some rubbish.. That's clients data which is valuable, not HR data which is much less so. Just posting any old data loss crap doesn't prove a single thing. Data loss is going to happen.. always has, always will. You can't not apply for gigs just because some where in the world some data is going to go missing.

                    EDIT and just to point out the third one is insider theft which surely would push the banks to carry out more stringent tests which this whole thread is about so you have kind of made the point rather than argue it to some extent.
                    Last edited by northernladuk; 13 December 2015, 14:38.
                    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                      EDIT and just to point out the third one is insider theft which surely would push the banks to carry out more stringent tests which this whole thread is about so you have kind of made the point rather than argue it to some extent.
                      I'll concede that. However the fact that you consider that banks view HR data less valuable than client data kind of bolsters my point.

                      Putting privacy concerns to the side:

                      I do not however believe that asking contractors for arbritary documents such as bank statements is the appropriate way of screening candidates for security reasons. See below:

                      Fake Documents, Fake Bank Statements, Fake Utility Bills, P60, P45, Payslips

                      *Or just buy the correct paper stock & fire up your colour laser. Or fire up the console in Chrome if using online banking.
                      Last edited by clearedforlanding; 13 December 2015, 17:07.

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